Posts by venus

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God is not the creator

by venus in

every theory (including darwin’s) primarily proves someone has to design a theory; every product primarily proves someone has to design it.

when neil armstrong and buzz aldrin landed on the moon it primarily proved intelligence of many people had to design that moon-mission.. 1) if every machine primarily proves someone designed it, then a much more complex, wonderful, and living machine with reproductive feature would mean the same: someone with corresponding ability, of higher energy, designed it because effect explains the cause just like harvest explains the sowing (whether you saw sowing or not).

science shows human body is like a complex machinery with many departments/systems (such as respiratory, digestive, cardiovascular/circulatory, renal/urinary, endocrine, nervous, musculoskeletal, integumentary/exocrine, lymphatic/immune, reproductive etc.

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Hi OnTheWayOut

OP points did not make much head way into your intellect because you did not approach them as though hearing it for the first time. When I shared the same with a JW, she came heavily against me as though carrying with her a Hydrogen bomb. When I told her to read it again as though hearing it for the first time, she did it—now she is convinced that JW got their teaching about soul completely wrong, and also shows by her life that she is in no need of a human spiritual feeding program as each human being is a spirit having the same qualities of God just like drop shares the qualities of an ocean.

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The Pastorals

by Doug Mason in

all will be very familiar with:.

"all scripture is inspired by god and is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness" (2 timothy 3:16, nrsv).

"we wait for the blessed hope and the manifestation of the glory of our great god and savior, jesus christ.

venus

Great Post.

Here is an interesting book you would enjoy on the same subject:

THE GENIUS OF PAUL

written by Sandmel

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What is the benifits to living forever?

by Jayk in

can anyone give me a valid reason for it?

growing old is a drag.

the witnesses idea of ever lasting life, that you will come back to your most youthful state is such a bs answer..

venus

This is something we cannot escape from because we are human beings. The word human is from humus [Latin] which denotes soil, and being is all about essence/spirit of a person. Thus a human being is described as spirit using body as its vehicle; and spirit is conscious energy that cannot be created nor destroyed—it has no beginning and no end

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Please explain the Watchtower's "Ransom" for me

by Doug Mason in

according to the watchtower:.

who received the ransom payment?.

why did the ransomer need to be paid?.

venus

We need not worry about this doctrine which was found unscriptural as early as Luke's time. If Jesus really came to be murdered and thus “to take away the sin of the world” (John 1:29), he would have used his superhuman skills to explain this incomprehensible teaching (killing the innocent removes the sins of the sinners). The only passing comment Jesus made on this is found in Mathew 20:25-28 which was ascertained by Luke as later adoption, hence Luke deleted the controversial verse (“son of man came to give his life as a ransom for many”) from his account. (Luke 22:25-27)

Even after the so called ransom was paid, sin continues to rule the world, and mankind continues to be under the slavery of sin for over 2000 years.

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Bible adds to confusion

by venus in

when we become confused, we would naturally look to god’s guidance.

see what happens if we turn to the bible.. .

1) noah became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent.

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When we become confused, we would naturally look to God’s guidance. See what happens if we turn to the Bible.

1) Noah became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent. His son Ham reported the matter to his brothers who came and laid a garment on Noah’s naked body. Noah awoke from his wine and cursed Canaan instead of Ham, and consecrated this curse through a prayer, thus brought wrath of God on the entire Canaan race. Why? No answer.

(Genesis 9:20-27)

2) “‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death,” God told Moses. (Leviticus 20:1, 9) Then why Jesus was crucified instead of Satan who presented God as a liar to Adam and Eve. Why? No answer.

3) To the important question ‘Does the human spirit rises upward and the spirit of the animal go down into the earth?’ Bible itself answers “Who knows.” (Ecclesiastes 3:21)

4) To another important question ‘Why are some people born blind?’ Not only wrong, but a God-dishonoring answer is given (John 9:1-3)

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Do we need spirituality or religion to be good socially responsible people ?

by Finkelstein in

religion is declining in many countries around the world and hardly exists in some countries.. it would fair to say that scientifically acquired knowledge has taken a bite of religious practice over the years.

the premising suggestion that there is a god looking at everything mankind does or should do is vanishing out the human consciousness.. should we emulate the social directives written in ancient manuscripts established by those ancients for their civilization ?

is it possible that mankind can control and guide itself now with all the acquired knowledge we have attained, toward the ending betterment of humanity ?

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People and Governments who put their trust in the production and export of petrol and diesel suddenly find as though sand is eroding under their feet. After Paris Climate Agreement (signed by 195 countries on April 22, 2016) Governments all over the world are now vigorously planning to move on to electric vehicles because of the dangers caused to the climate by the use of fossil-based energy such as petrol and diesel.

This is all what is required. Humans can choose any path they want, but should change the course when they find need to change.

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Do we need spirituality or religion to be good socially responsible people ?

by Finkelstein in

religion is declining in many countries around the world and hardly exists in some countries.. it would fair to say that scientifically acquired knowledge has taken a bite of religious practice over the years.

the premising suggestion that there is a god looking at everything mankind does or should do is vanishing out the human consciousness.. should we emulate the social directives written in ancient manuscripts established by those ancients for their civilization ?

is it possible that mankind can control and guide itself now with all the acquired knowledge we have attained, toward the ending betterment of humanity ?

venus

Great points Doubtful1799,

Knowledge of God is not required for anyone to be a good person because all sorts of people are found equally among both the groups—theists and atheists.

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God is not the creator

by venus in

every theory (including darwin’s) primarily proves someone has to design a theory; every product primarily proves someone has to design it.

when neil armstrong and buzz aldrin landed on the moon it primarily proved intelligence of many people had to design that moon-mission.. 1) if every machine primarily proves someone designed it, then a much more complex, wonderful, and living machine with reproductive feature would mean the same: someone with corresponding ability, of higher energy, designed it because effect explains the cause just like harvest explains the sowing (whether you saw sowing or not).

science shows human body is like a complex machinery with many departments/systems (such as respiratory, digestive, cardiovascular/circulatory, renal/urinary, endocrine, nervous, musculoskeletal, integumentary/exocrine, lymphatic/immune, reproductive etc.

venus

Morpheus,

Reason means the same thing for you and for me. Take out the reason, then we won’t be able to understand anything (let alone creators and The Creator). There's an old saying: "I know I do not see the world as it is, I see the world as I am".

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God is not the creator

by venus in

every theory (including darwin’s) primarily proves someone has to design a theory; every product primarily proves someone has to design it.

when neil armstrong and buzz aldrin landed on the moon it primarily proved intelligence of many people had to design that moon-mission.. 1) if every machine primarily proves someone designed it, then a much more complex, wonderful, and living machine with reproductive feature would mean the same: someone with corresponding ability, of higher energy, designed it because effect explains the cause just like harvest explains the sowing (whether you saw sowing or not).

science shows human body is like a complex machinery with many departments/systems (such as respiratory, digestive, cardiovascular/circulatory, renal/urinary, endocrine, nervous, musculoskeletal, integumentary/exocrine, lymphatic/immune, reproductive etc.

venus

OnTheWayOut

That is what the OP heading means "God is not the Creator", and that is what the concluding verse means: Within each human body, there is a creator.

OP is not about God The Creator because His non-intervention and non-communication obviously show that He wants to remain unidentified. If the Almighty really wants to get His message across with incontestable clarity He would definitely have various means at His disposal to do so. Using a rain-bow like writing that would appear on the sky at regular interval so that everybody can read in their language would be a too easy job for Him. If He doesn’t do that, then it means He knows everyone knows what is right and wrong, what is beneficial and wasteful which is really the truth because

1)Everyone knows what action of others make them happy/sorrowful which means everyone knows how they should act towards others.

2)Some parts of earth is already like paradise which means humans know how to make the whole earth paradise, if they want to.

3)Some countries have never partaken in any war from their very inception which means other countries know how to go about without war if they really want.

4)Knowledge of God is not required for anyone to be a good person because all sorts of people are found among both the groups—theists and atheists.

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God is not the creator

by venus in

every theory (including darwin’s) primarily proves someone has to design a theory; every product primarily proves someone has to design it.

when neil armstrong and buzz aldrin landed on the moon it primarily proved intelligence of many people had to design that moon-mission.. 1) if every machine primarily proves someone designed it, then a much more complex, wonderful, and living machine with reproductive feature would mean the same: someone with corresponding ability, of higher energy, designed it because effect explains the cause just like harvest explains the sowing (whether you saw sowing or not).

science shows human body is like a complex machinery with many departments/systems (such as respiratory, digestive, cardiovascular/circulatory, renal/urinary, endocrine, nervous, musculoskeletal, integumentary/exocrine, lymphatic/immune, reproductive etc.

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scatchme1010,

I would capture your reaction in the following scenario:

Raining is good news for an umbrella merchant whereas it’s sorrow for a potter.