Posts by anonymouz

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My friends visitation is tonight all of her JW family will be there

by troubled mind in

today i need some encouraging support ..i will be attending my friends funeral visitation tonight .. we had been jws together since childhood ,and then three yrs ago she was dfd .

we have supported each other these past few yrs with encouragement .she comes from a huge jw family, and they all plan on attending tonight.

i have known them all my life ,and they hate me for leaving the cult.

anonymouz

Sorry about your friend.

Yep, it's too late to lighten up on the shunning ice at a funeral, but I guess better than nothing. Sad to see a Bethel neo-papacy is the actual instigator of this kind of hurt, confusion and their own bloodguilt. It sort of signifies the Bethel organizational funeral is actually what is in progress, they just have not interred the governing "body" yet.

Christ's boot heel interring that lawless body will let all know when they are buried, and even misled JWs can start to heal if they can let go of the orgnaizational idols once they are buried for good.

(Isaiah 1:4-6) Woe to the sinful nation (that would be JWs), the people heavy with error, an evildoing seed, ruinous sons! They have left Jehovah, they have treated the Holy One of Israel with disrespect (such as UN NGO), they have turned backwards. 5 Where else will you be struck still more, in that you add more revolt? (JWs never seem to actually learn, more is coming) The whole head is in a sick condition (that would be the GB Bethel system), and the whole heart is feeble. (that would be the whole congregational system) 6 From the sole of the foot even to the head there is no sound spot in it. Wounds and bruises and fresh stripes—they have not been squeezed out or bound up, nor has there been a softening with oil.

And that pretty much describes the modern JW relic of the past.

(1 Thessalonians 4:13-14) Moreover, brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant concerning those who are sleeping [in death]; that you may not sorrow just as the rest also do who have no hope. 14 For if our faith is that Jesus died and rose again, so, too, those who have fallen asleep [in death] through Jesus God will bring with him.

God and Christ are the hope, not imperfect humans or their eventually corrupted "bodies".

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What would you do?

by KariOtt in

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i went to my 1st apointment with my surgeon today.

my scheduled apointment was at 10:30am.

my primary care doctor made the apointment over a week ago.

anonymouz

Yep, it may have been your first red flag. Never hurts to try an option.

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Human Insanity

by fulltimestudent in

is it sane to spend two trillion dollars or possibly four trillion dollars, and finish up in a worse situation, than when you started.. who could possibly be so stupid that they would do this?.

that's my reaction to a bbc (uk) news item - the heading caught my attention:.

us has left iraq broken.

anonymouz

Libya's condition is similar. The "US" will never actually leave Iraq, and then oversee 20 years of "reparations" funding, and replumb the oil and finance system, politics, etc, to suit the new regime. As part of the GWOT declared "world war" "on terror" similar smaller scale invasions are also occurring in USSOCOM researchable 100 or so mini-wars, all from the same post 911 pretext for a world invasion few even notice is coined a world war, as global war on terror.

Thus as people are shown street footage in Iraq and Libya, SOCOM is securing all the real loot and properties in the hills, banks, booty stashes, gold stores on site, etc, and the whole operation, footed by tax payers and more debt enslaving the "home nation", will be an eventual multi-trillion dollar operation counted in hard assets and capital, not in the USDollar that provides the well received illusion to be papered over in a smokescreen that will not break for a while.

Leading deluded and hired national politicians and advisors into this well orchestrated trap is easy as greed and power at miniscule national levels greases those tracks into governmental regulatory control to allow no holds barred super-corporate and super-financial control of the governmental circus everyone focuses on, while the real ring leaders invade the world, run the national governments into the ground and trillions in debt paying for the initial operation, to be seized in the globalization of finance that will be te only recourse of recovery left for the nations when this all goes into overdrive.

Thereby all the pieces on the chess board globally, and the whole board is then controlled by a globalized corporate super structure of finance, that empowered an actually globalized military system, already operating through a long compromised national governmental system, to hand their entire national wealth and physical reality to an international now fully financially, governmentally and militarily founded worldwide framework of an actual international world governmental ruling system above and beyond any national government, owning it all through the super finance corporate structure, and ruling in that fashion as super-sovereign entire nations whose autonomous sovereignty will evaporate with their wealth into globalized ownership structures, who already have 70% of the globalized military and governmental control in place at what used to be under national authority.

Finance power defines sovereign power, was already diverted in probably a quadrillion globally in 10 or 20 years of this post cold war operation globalized military power, corrupted the national governmental regulatory power to empower this progression, and will seize world financial power to finalize the inevitable. Dan11:42-43 in time culminates as Rev17:12-18 as Rev16:13-16 actual nearly full world globalization, which can fully complete after the ten year world government globalization cycle coming up, in a final decade theoretical acquisition of a few national weak pawns left over as loose ends for that finalizing round.

Thus they will never actually leave Afghanistan or Iraq, have poured probably 100 billion into their reorganizing nations, and will leave no national power they are already rooted into owning, by national debt at volumes guaranteeing globalized finance and monetary systems are wat must come first, along with the full globalization cycle for say ten years to achieve a first actual world governmental completion as an actual international ruling system far beyond the UN schematic that must be it's "conference room" and Marquee of world government.

8th King crazy like a fox.

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There is a Mole in Brooklyn

by Oubliette in

reading cedar's excellent article about the july 15, 2013 new-light" study edition of the watchtower got me thinking:.

the control freaks in brooklyn known as the governing body (aka fds) must be having conniption fits knowing that there is a mole in bethel leaking information to apostates!

"three weeks ahead of its expected release date in mid-april, a scanned copy of the july 15 2013 "study edition" of the watchtower was leaked to the office of jwsurvey by a conscientious active witness within the organization.".

anonymouz

But what if the MOLE is the GB itself? Then all these predictable linear conclusions people draw are also part of the ploy and not the actual description of reality. They operate for years misleading JWs, stumbling millions, setting up a finance sting and neither JWs or XJWs or anyone else ever figures out what is actually going down.

Then the GB would not be the set of dummies they imply to some, or the Christian supreme council they imply to JWs, just good at what they do as none of the above. In fact they would be great at what they really do.

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1914, 1918, 1919. How often?

by Splash in

how often certain key dates are mentioned in the wt magazines:.

wt date 1914 1918 1919 total.

2010-2011 23 4 1 28 (would be 140 if you x5 to make 10 years).

anonymouz

Twice.

There are two JW rules (ignored by JWs) that indicate the 1914 cycle must repeat. And those rules have scriptural logic. And Bethel breaks those rules for a dumbed down JW mindset of a premature end.

First off, none of the "previews" of 1914 actually manifested literally. BTG is present. The Kingdom is not in literal sovereign power totality. The whole cycle started with the "7th trumpet" (Rev11, thus out of sequence), the wildbeast is not a globalized world unification, the UN is just a schematic power system sitting on 17 acres in NY state in aging buildings NOT a world government. And so on, NOTHING in those spheres of finality has actually occurred at or since 1914.

1. But Daniel 11:42-45 must be a one time only sequence that must climax. Regardless of JW USSR error, that prophecy means financial/monetary globalization and first cycle world government receivership of all a true globalization of finance and investment implies. (Dan11:42-43). That means according to JW rules now ignored by JWs, Daniel 12:1 "during that time" must activate as Daniel 11:42-45 progresses to? Daniel 12 activating "during that time" of Daniel 11:42-45 future final globalization intrigues far beyond mere UN international forum schematic scale.

2. By JW rules the "holy city" is trampled? SEVEN times as 2520 years as seven symbolic lunar years of 360 days as years. Seven time 360 years is 2520 years.

And by JW rules in symbolic form, the Revelation 11:2 "holy city" in adjusted "last days" form has only been trampled? 3.5 times.

By JWs' own rules, that "holy city" must be trampled "seven times" as now 2520 days, as 1260 days in 1914-1918, and 1260 days in the future as Daniel 11:42-45 connects to Daniel 12 live, which has a logically then repeating 1260 days at Daniel 12:7 parallel to the 1260 days of Revelation 11:2, and 11:3. And that would theoretically complete the JW rules required "seven times" as 2520 days in a related principle.

Thus even if this was all fiction, JWs are still not observing their own rules and basic logic that a final cycle of Daniel 12, with very literal culminations, is required by? JWs' own rules of their own game. Even JWs await Daniel 11:44-45, albeit prematurely and out of sync with the globalization process and world news of financial globalization coming up first (Dan11:42-43), and by JWs' own understanding, Daniel 11:44-45 must be a unique future event that must logically proceed into Daniel 12 time periods repeating in literal, in sequence, in live and real-time form.

In effect JWs are derailed and the pieces have fallen off of their own board game psychologically disabling the final rounding of the board and finishing their own game - they forfeited. And a related effect from Bethel is also misleading JWs in the process to think "it can end any day now brothers!". When in fact it cannot end any day now, the final globalization cycle can BEGIN any day now is what is the actuality, and go on for several globalizing years is the certainty. And that multi-years certainty is from world globalization projections, prophecy and supposed prophetic JW rules being ignored at the supposed home stretch, not the "finish line" as JWs' prematurely expect in error.

Thus it is very strange what is actually happening to JWs, who at least used to act like they paid attention to the rules of their own game way back when they tried to explain prophecy.

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Persecuted Christians

by IMHO in

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christians are the single most widely persecuted religious group in the world today.

1. christian churches around the world have set apart the month of november to remember and pray for the persecuted church, through the international day of prayer for the persecuted church (idop).. 2. according to the u.s. department of state, christians in more than 60 countries face persecution from their governments or surrounding neighbors simply because of their belief in christ.. 3. with the exception of four official state-controlled churches in pyongyang, christians in north korea face the risk of detention in the prison camps, severe torture and, in some cases, execution for practicing their religious beliefs.

north koreans suspected of having contact with south korean or other foreign missionaries in china, and those caught in possession of a bible, have been known to be executed.. 4. in syria, christians are increasingly becoming the target of violent attacks.

anonymouz

Divide and conquer. While all of Christendom is now divided, the alternative system of world rulership is united. The confusions of the masses in even more forms of division, aids the process. In the top design, the divided Christendom actually aids it's own oppressors ultimately operating through the state as it crystallized into nations, which must crystallize into internationalist world order. (Rev17:11-18).

When the final globalizing crystallization is near completion in a decade or so (Rev16:13-16), the required divisional aids, like Christendom, can then be fully deposed as merely a means to meet that international governmental unification end, aided by mass division in a common "divide and conquer" formula at global scale also culminated into the unification of the alternative world government system.

It is all logical, governmentally evolutionary, and formulaic in some very basic concepts, merely confused by the scale and means of their worldwide application and dynamic change, aiding misinformation, and thus recognition of the overall objective. Thus "divide and conquer" by minutia of nationalism, philosophy, class and religion applied globally effectively greatly aids the final conquest cycle.

And that cycle must go on about a good ten years to pass the true sovereign consolidation point of no return for declining national former autonomy as independent sovereigns that too, must end into international sovereignty and it's ruling authority and device in which nations are mere states of states.

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The Hope Of The World?

by metatron in

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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/10/more-nsa-leakers-followed-snowdens-footsteps-whistleblower-lawyer-says/.

why do i post this and think it could be the most hopeful development in the world currently?.

there are some fringe opinions out there that i believe may be credible - in particular, the "breakaway group" theory of historian richard dolan which assert that parts of the us intelligence community know about some astounding technology - and are keeping it strictly secret.. just suppose that we enter a world-wide period in which the whole edifice of secrecy collapses as whistleblowers surge forward into public view.

anonymouz

The coma of the post industrializing nations is so deep, the very powers that be must use these kinds of "news breaks" and shills like Alex Jones and others so that atleast 1 in 1000 people can know what is coming, and that can provide the needed resistance to aid martial containment, otherwise it would be like an invasion on sleeping cows if not for a few people in the masses clued in by the power that be to aid a little awareness of the reality unfolding, when it actually develops by accerated means.

Not that all of this is "enginered dissent", but that it must be "leaked" out to get the ball rolling, and it has been rolling since even before the internet web aid, but now is on "auto pilot" and aided by some top navigation "whistleblowers" who also create some very profitable cottage industries at the same time, like Y2K, all engineered to look like "truth" that cannot be hidden any longer, but is truth that can be hidden so successfully 99% of America and the EU are sleeping ducks, and it needs a horn blast from the castle itself to get the wake up call rolling in a very small percentage of those ducks.

Or else of course there would be no need for the national invasion by it's own "security" forces, so one will be provided, and probably catalyzed similar to the 911 overall "cause and effect" device, but at much larger scale, yet echoeing the same call to world invasion (GWOT continuation of world war in some unique form), and more internal security, but also at much larger scale globally now.

If some people were not outright told of this, they would never put it together, the coma devices of distraction are simply too effective. So, a reverse psychology education program is deployed under a veneer aided by first impressions and predictable linear thinking to direct this social current for even more divisive developments, and more internal confusions, even if less than a percent of the socieity, it ripples out in other ways as a gradation of awareness in many realms of national intrgues, like finance, security, GMO whistleblowing, and so on, etc, etc, etc, etc.

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"NEW LIGHT" FOR 2014? WHAT'S YOUR PREDICTION FOR 2014'S NEW AND IMPROVED LIGHT?

by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker in

hi, i am reading a book on mind control and one of the areas the author stresses group control is their constant revision of "new insight from god" or "we have a new message from god".

in keeping with the spirit of new light, 2014 is going to need a moral boost because one hundred years of lies needs a spin doctor of bethel size.

the poster with the close new light for 2014 will be showered with glory and much pomp.

anonymouz

"This just in from God Himslef:" "The preaching work has ended brothers and sisters!, you can go home now...well done!" "We will liquidate the billion or so in WT assets as "all his belongings" to divvy up with "the faithful slave", all 8 of us and a few staunch supporters here at Bethel"

"Thanks for all your support!"

Signed,

The Governing Body

goood bye!

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