Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why the Matrix was redesigned to this: the peak of your civilization.
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A Perfect Life Isn't Worth Living?
by Sorry inthink of your favorite tv shows.
what do they all have in common?
the answer is they revolve around some type of problem or conflict.
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This site should be called Anti-Jehovahs-Witnesses Cry-babies
by the-Question inso, you left because of a bad example(s).. why all the whining?
nothing better to do with your time?.
you at least know far more about the bible than any church-goer?.
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And the Most High Admin Simon said unto thee, 'Thou shalt not troll on my board. You are cut off from the people. Take thy dung elsewhere.' [Yul Brynner voice] So let it be written, so let it done
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What's preventing YOU from stopping meeting attendance?
by nicolaou inwe all 'exit' in our own way and at our own pace but i'm curious, why carry on stuffing yourself into that stiff suit and tie or meeting dress years after you realised the truth about 'the truth'?.
they kept you a prisoner, what's stopping you from leaving now that you have the key to your own cell?.
loved ones?
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I was lucky in a way. I was already mostly inactive when the light bulb first went off. Not that I faded completely out unscathed. There were elder visits, 'concerned friends' trying to 'encourage' me. Family members 'taking me aside' and trying to 'talk sense' to me.
By the time I was gone gone, no one really paid me much mind anymore though. I had raised just enough questions that it was clear I was not going to 'go quietly into that good night', and instead of harassing me, and trying to prove a point, they let me be. The downside to that is that I'm not officially DFd or DAd, just gone. I still have family in, I still see old JW 'friends' occasionally, not that we associate, but run into them (it's a small enough city, it's going to happen). So, while some actually shun me, others see the need to try to woo me back.
I took a hands off approach with my wife. She was inactive as well, but not mentally out. I knew better than to force the subject. You have to have your own doubts before you accept the facts about the WTS. So I figured if we stayed inactive, and made a life outside the JWs/KH, she would eventually come around on her own. I only dropped the occasional hint or comment. It hasn't worked. Her JW family keeps the pressure on her, and with the recent election, the fear of Armageddon is back, and she is leaning toward returning. I fear a showdown is in the near future.
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JWs in Russia- "Pray for those in prison"
by NikL inlast night at the midweek meeting was a part titled "pray for those in prison" or something like that.. they showed a video all about the witnesses in russia and the court battles they've been fighting of late and the hard time they have been having because of it all.. the first thing that struck me, hey, why don't you a** holes in brooklyn send these poor sods a few rubles to help them along?.
nah!
prayer is what they need.. anyway, i hadn't really followed the story so i thought i would look it up this morning and see what was in the media about the story.. on the npr website they had a big write up about it back in may of last year.... http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/05/17/476898973/russias-jehovahs-witnesses-fight-extremist-label-possible-ban.
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Last night at the midweek meeting was a part titled "pray for those in Prison" or something like that.
They showed a video all about the witnesses in Russia and the court battles they've been fighting of late and the hard time they have been having because of it all.Screw all the other 'extremist' religions and sects. Just pray for your fellow Witnesses.
It is troubling that Russia is clamping down on, not just JWs, but any religion/sect that doesn't meet their strict interpretation of what is acceptable worship. But it's also very telling how the WTS ignores the plights of others while encouraging JWs to 'pray for their brothers'. Two thoughts come to mind: 1) no one else's rights/freedoms matter but their own. 2) By advertising this in the KH meetings, it feeds the fears of the collective that they really are in the 'last days'. And that is by design, make no mistake.
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Are baptized Witnesses that are no longer in the "truth", but were NEVER DF'D, now to be shunned and treated like disfellowshipped ones?
by Dunedain ina relative of mine was telling me, that in his, and a few neighboring congregations, there is a little confusion amongst some of the jw's about this "issue".
some families are having a hard time about whether certain relatives will be attending certain family functions, because some family members that are no longer in the "truth", might be invited to these functions.
mind you, these persons were never disfellowshipped.
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The 2016 convention had several talks that warned against associating with ANY who have become inactive, or faded..as well as "less spiritual ones" still in the congregation.
While it may be worded a little more 'in your face', the actual admonition is not really different from years past. They've always warned against associating with anyone who is 'weak' or 'less spiritual'.
That's not to say they aren't ramping up the rhetoric to instill (more) fear, but stripped down to its essence, it's the same basic tenant as always.
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Inactive
by ScottyRex ininactive.......hmmm, what an interesting title (notice, not phrase) that's me.
not a title i ascribe myself, one foisted on me.. jwd -yes.
jw memorial, why of course too.. valid posts on here....yes.
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10 plus years....that's a lot of trying do disprove something you once thought was right.
your limited lines and clipped pics have been boring me for close on 10 years now.
10 years... that's a lot of being bored. Why suffer so?
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Rank & File Reaction to Leah Remini Series
by freemindfade inwife and i have watched the whole series and just finished episode 7 last night.
personally, i am seeing a great deal more subtle and day to day similarities to watchtower than the obvious ones i already knew existed, ie shunning.
very eye opening and heartbreaking, even more so than going clear in my mind.
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It's easy to see the similarities for those of us who were once inside, but are now out.
For those still inside the JWs, if they even bothered to watch it, they would focus on the leadership, the theology, the physical confrontations and private eye stuff, and never make a correlation. The shunning, the disconnections, the accusations of 'crimes', and other control methods would not penetrate a JWs mind to the point of them seeing the similarities.
Watching the one ex member who broke down in tears and asked for a break, when talking about losing his family brings us anxiety and touches us... we've seen it and experienced it. A JW watching that same scene would not react as we do. They will not feel that empathy, they're above it all. They have Jehovah's spirit and are living in a spiritual paradise. Too bad for this guy, but had he been a JW, he wouldn't be going through this. I'm generalizing of course, but for the most part, a hard core, zealous JW has little to no empathy for the world around them.
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Short stay
by midnight inafter much research and prayer i am returning to being a jehovah's witness i can find nothing that eliminates them from being god's directed people , in the end they will reach the end of there journey despite mistakes and errors just like the israelites entered the promised land , thanks for your input and all the best on your personal journey ☺.
midnight..
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... I am returning to being a Jehovah's Witness
It's a fair bet that you never really left. But to each his own. You do have the freedom to choose your spiritual path. Good luck.
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How to reply when someone asks about your spiritual health
by RodrigoGuerreiro infirst of all, sorry if i cannot correctly express the original expression used in my native language to ask for the "spiritual condition".. a few years ago some member of the family asks my wife directly how is her "spiritual health" (for me it's one of the many strange vocabulary used by jw like "the slave says...").
she was catched by surprise with the direct question and says that everything is ok... and luckily someone call them for lunch.. my question is: do you have any good answers for that question?
you can be ironic/use some humor because the question is a little bit anecdotical .
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"How's your spiritual health?"
"It's fine. Why do ask?"
Answer a question with a question. The intent of their question isn't to get a straight answer, it's to put you ill at ease. Why would they ask that... they must know something... So, don't give them that opportunity. Put the pressure back on them. In essence you're saying, 'why would you ask that... what business is it of yours... are you insinuating something... they'll back off pretty quick
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Some apostates are coming across as crazed psychopaths
by jambon1 ini'm not sure whether or not my view on this is correct so please leave your input.
in recent months i've been viewing youtube videos.
again, it might just be my view but there has been an increased amount of random people grabbing a camera and doing vlogs.
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Yea, we need more Leah Reminis and less Danny Haszards