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i was reading a post that reminded me of the songs that were popular but was wrong to listen to for various reasons.. we all remember puff the magic dragon being about drugs, which i hear was just a rumour.. another i remember was let it be by the beatles, which was " catholic based about mary the mother of jesus" when apparently it was written about paul mccartney's own mother.
shows what they know.. which songs do you remember that were "bad" that we were not supposed to listen to?
Ok, don't think I am crazy. But for all those in the US, do you remember the show Mr. ED??? you know the talking horse????????Well, I couldn't watch that show anymore cause if you played the theme song backwards it was supposed to have demonic messages in it.
Anyone else told this????????
You're not crazy. I remember that too.
When I heard that one, I kinda figured it was all hogwash, this backward masking crap. So I went and re-bought Led Zeppelins fourth album.
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i was reading a post that reminded me of the songs that were popular but was wrong to listen to for various reasons.. we all remember puff the magic dragon being about drugs, which i hear was just a rumour.. another i remember was let it be by the beatles, which was " catholic based about mary the mother of jesus" when apparently it was written about paul mccartney's own mother.
shows what they know.. which songs do you remember that were "bad" that we were not supposed to listen to?
Don't forget Michael Jackson being da'd. Couldn't listen to that.And how they used to say that he lost Jehovah's blessing after he left the organization. That is why he is not as popular.
I HATE that kind of reasoning. Does that mean that the faithful pioneer who does everything in his power to further the kingdom good news has lost Jehovah's blessing when he loses his part time job??
Wacko Jacko's loss of popularity (or his success earlier) has NOTHING to do with blessings from God. God don't care about whos on top of the charts or whos the best tennis player or whatever. ARRRGGGHHHHH.
Going to take a Valium now.
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i was reading a post that reminded me of the songs that were popular but was wrong to listen to for various reasons.. we all remember puff the magic dragon being about drugs, which i hear was just a rumour.. another i remember was let it be by the beatles, which was " catholic based about mary the mother of jesus" when apparently it was written about paul mccartney's own mother.
shows what they know.. which songs do you remember that were "bad" that we were not supposed to listen to?
I was at a wedding where "Love shack" was played by the DJ and the Elders turned it off.
I was at a wedding where Huey Lewis and the News' "I Want a New Drug" was cut off in mid-song. I dared the DJ(a dub) to play Weird Al's version "I Want a New Duck". He wouldn't do it.
i know that the "policy" has now changed regarding the "generation of 1914".
but what about the great crowd of 1935?
the watchtower publication "survival into a new earth" (printed 1984) claims that some of those of the "great crowd" in 1935 will enter into the new world.
OK, parden my ignorance on this subject. I didn't pay very good attention at the meetings .
The great crowd was identified in 1935. The 144,000 number was sealed by this time. No new anointed(cept to replace unfaithful ones). Using just the Bible, how does one come up with this date of 1935? It seems I saw a website one time that talked about this subject, but I can't remember where I saw it. Or if someone remembers a thread here about this, I'd appreciate a link. I'll try a search too.
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i was reading a post that reminded me of the songs that were popular but was wrong to listen to for various reasons.. we all remember puff the magic dragon being about drugs, which i hear was just a rumour.. another i remember was let it be by the beatles, which was " catholic based about mary the mother of jesus" when apparently it was written about paul mccartney's own mother.
shows what they know.. which songs do you remember that were "bad" that we were not supposed to listen to?
Don't remember the title or the band, but: Sha la la la la la live for today and dont worry bout tomorrow...."
Another one: Dont remember the title or band: "One toke over the line sweet Jesus, one toke over the line...."
Anything by Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, The Stones "Her Satanic Majesty's Request" album.
White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane(just proving the whole point of the song)
Actually everthing that appealed to me was pretty much labeled as "unwholesome". I used to get grief cause I had all the Beatles albums. And Dylan(he's such a revolutionary character ya know). Parents freaked cause I went to see the Woodstock movie. Imagine if I had gone to the actual event. I'm still buying albums(well, CDs now) from the 60's that I wasn't allowed to have when young.
a new public talk reviews what being sound in mind refers to.
the speaker mentioned that in order to please jehovah and show that you have "soundness of mind", you should not associate with anyone that is not in the "truth", to the extent possible.
he re-read that comment a second time for emphasis.
Rodbar and happyout
I see your point now. I remembered the counsel on "large" gatherings once I read your posts. I remember how picnics and larger parties at rented buildings and shelters dwindled after the Society said that whoever organized these events would be held responsible. Everybody was afraid to be responsible. Even wedding receptions got the wrath of the GB. I kind of remember how it was implied to keep the quest list down and if you weren't invited to not be upset about it. The line had to be drawn somewhere.
Personnally I think this backfires on em. Instead of everybody fellowshipping together in the open(where elders can watch), people started having their own private parties. You can control who is invited or knows about it. You can engage in unapproved of practices and assorted other vices, keep quiet, get away with it and still be in good standing. I've seen lots of people that I never knew who even drank get completely blitzed. I've seen couples "get together" but at the hall you'd think they had never even met.
Even the basketball and football games were eliminated. Someone always got upset or let the heat of battle get to em. So it was better to cancel the whole thing for everybody instead of removing the one or two that wouldn't comply with the "it's just a game" rule. I always thought that hypocritical, cause when I visited Bethel, those guys played down right mean. It was like the NBA is now. All thugs and no class(or very little). Maybe the exBethel guys can give more insight on that. I was just involved in one instance but it was rough. Much rougher than our home cong. games.
this morning as i got up, it was 0 f outside.
this morning at 9 o'clock as usual the same witnesses will go door to door at this temperature.
i already saw them going door to door at -25 f. i wonder what it would take for them to say it is too cold or too hot to go out in the field service?
I remember one time a special pioneer was visiting our cong. We were out in service in a territory that normally in mild weather we would walk, but it was so cold and windy I decided to drive from driveway to driveway(not really rural but not city either). The special pioneer counseled me on this(so I'm lazy, DF me) and insisted we park and walk. We got two houses and then he suggests that maybe we take a coffee break and then drive from house to house.
I remember going out in the rain and wondering what the hell are we doing out here. We look like a bunch of kooks.
How bout bad dogs? The sisters refused to go to houses with dogs and the brothers had to prove how macho they were by going up against an ill-tempered animal. I knew several people bitten in service. Fortunately I was able to escape the couple of times I was charged but usually I was able to realize before I got to the house that the dog might be too dangerous to deal with.
a new public talk reviews what being sound in mind refers to.
the speaker mentioned that in order to please jehovah and show that you have "soundness of mind", you should not associate with anyone that is not in the "truth", to the extent possible.
he re-read that comment a second time for emphasis.
Isn't it lovely how the WTS warns you to stay away from worldly association and then discourages you from associating with other witnesses outside of the meetings or field service?
I admit I haven't been to a meeting in a while, but I don't remember ever being discouraged from associating with other witnesses. Exactly where and how have they been doing that? Not trying to start an argument, just curious.
i read a few apostate books during my research as a jw...after confessing in private to a best friend that i'd read them i got snitched on and they ran and told the elders....prats!
this led to a judicial and a 6 month probation, wasnt allowed to do carpark duty (sobs) or michrophone duty (baawl) for 6 months nor could i answer up at meetings which led to tongue wagging, could go on doors though... a bit strict huh.. also know of a 6 year old who handed in her dad for speaking to apostates!
was you snitched on?
From the research that Blondie has posted, it seems up till 73 that there was a probation period. And then in 73 there wasn't. So other than these "question box" answers, was this change in procedure ever outlined for everyone to know? Or were these "question box" answers the official new procedure? Most organizations whether religious, governmental, business, etc that have a major change in policy will do so with a memo, letter or some other official form. To announce the change in policy by way of a side article in the company newsletter(Kingdom Ministry) is weak.
Besides, what changed other than the terminology? You were either repentant(reproved) or unrepentant(DF'd). If repentant, it was either public reproof or private reproof. Restrictions are placed. Before you were on probation(being watched). Now you have restrictions(being watched).
If a probationary period was in line with the scriptures, are they now not in harmony with the scriptures? Or vice versa? If vice versa, are apologies warranted to those who were unscripturally under probation?
Boggles the mind after a while, huh?
i can't get over the fact the the gb of the wt society are treated like kings.
aren't they supposed to be "one of the brethren"?
the wt always accuses others of being guilty of "idol" worship when it comes to people of fame (i.e.
Question: Have any of you personally seen or heard of such a display of adoration and glorification toward the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses?
I remember at a district convention a few years ago when Henschel was there. He came out of one of the back offices of the coliseum and was recognized almost immediately by someone. They ran over and then another and another. Pretty soon there was this big crowd all around him wanting to shake his hand(or maybe touch the hem of his garment). I watched from the distance amazed and somewhat disgusted. He is just a man same as all the rest and his talk that morning was terrible. He read it straight from a manuscript with no feeling and it put me right to sleep.
