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  Latest convention brochure on,,, the Governing Body

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've finally get my hands on a pdf of one of the two newly released brochures, this one entitled "who are doing jehovah's will today?".

  here's a link so you can download your own copy.... http://www66.zippyshare.com/v/98881625/file.html.

  predictably, the brochure is extremely vague on key topics.

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  So according to JW thinking the following identity is not used becuase it gives the wrong impression:

  "leaders" = "those who take the lead"

  Although they admit there is nothing wrong grammatically with identifying "leaders" with the phrase "those taking the lead", the word "leaders" implies following men, which the JWs like to pretend they are not doing.

  According to the JW mindset, the word "managers" is substituted for the word "leaders" or for "those taking the lead."

  The elders in the congregations are "Watchtower Managers" taking direction from the FDS (according to the Organizational Chart).

  In the past, elders were even called "Overseers"(*), but the use of that word within the congregation was stopped several years ago.

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  (*) overseer - a person who directs and manages an organization
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  Latest convention brochure on,,, the Governing Body

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've finally get my hands on a pdf of one of the two newly released brochures, this one entitled "who are doing jehovah's will today?".

  here's a link so you can download your own copy.... http://www66.zippyshare.com/v/98881625/file.html.

  predictably, the brochure is extremely vague on key topics.

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  SC: "Our leaders” gives the impression that they are on a separate level or even a higher level. When you say “Those taking the lead among you” they don’t sound separate because they are “among us”. Even those of the faithful discreet slave who have a heavenly hope, and the governing body members are still referred to as “our brothers.” Not leader, master, ruler, etc. Amongst Jehovah’s Witnesses, it would sound a little strange if you referred to them in that way"

  OK, how would SC explain this Organizational Chart published in the Watchtower?

  Looks to me like there are many "separate levels" with some "higher" than others.

  

  SC: "See this example: Heb. 13:7, 17, 24."

  Hebrews 13:7, 17, 24
  New International Version (NIV)

  7 Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith.

  17 Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you.

  24 Greet all your leaders and all the Lord’s people. Those from Italy send you their greetings.

  I read "leaders", "leaders", and "leaders."

  What is the SC trying to pull off here?
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  Latest convention brochure on,,, the Governing Body

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've finally get my hands on a pdf of one of the two newly released brochures, this one entitled "who are doing jehovah's will today?".

  here's a link so you can download your own copy.... http://www66.zippyshare.com/v/98881625/file.html.

  predictably, the brochure is extremely vague on key topics.

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  This brochure is like reading a summary of the book, "Bearing Thorough Witness About God's Kingdom"

  Is that book available for downloading?

  It would be interesting to compare it with the brochure.
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  Latest convention brochure on,,, the Governing Body

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've finally get my hands on a pdf of one of the two newly released brochures, this one entitled "who are doing jehovah's will today?".

  here's a link so you can download your own copy.... http://www66.zippyshare.com/v/98881625/file.html.

  predictably, the brochure is extremely vague on key topics.

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  What was the second brochure?

  Is it also available for download?
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  Cheery new Awake! cover - should make it easy to place...

  by cedars in

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  Things that were supposedly demonized

  by freshstart in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was just thinking about all the fear i had when i was a kid that i would be attacked by demons if i wasn't careful.

  i mean i lived in absolute terror over it, so i'm going to reminisce about the things i was told were demonized and you can add to the list if you'd like:.

  lucky charms cerealcount dracula cerealitems bought at garage sales where there was a cross or anything religious present"hotel california" by the eagles (now one of my favorite songs)wwjd braceletsscooby dooi remember being so scared of every little noise that whenever i would turn off my light to go to bed, i would say "jehovah, jehovah!

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  Where in the Bible does it say inanimate objects are Demonized?

  Nowhere!!!

  This is an example of a JW superstition.
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  Things that were supposedly demonized

  by freshstart in

  1. jw
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  i was just thinking about all the fear i had when i was a kid that i would be attacked by demons if i wasn't careful.

  i mean i lived in absolute terror over it, so i'm going to reminisce about the things i was told were demonized and you can add to the list if you'd like:.

  lucky charms cerealcount dracula cerealitems bought at garage sales where there was a cross or anything religious present"hotel california" by the eagles (now one of my favorite songs)wwjd braceletsscooby dooi remember being so scared of every little noise that whenever i would turn off my light to go to bed, i would say "jehovah, jehovah!

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  Under demonical control, Clayton J. Woodworth
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  Do You Think That You Should Be Punished For Letting Drivers Know There Is A Speed Trap Along Their Route?

  by minimus in

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  a houston woman made up a sign warning motorists of a speedtrap and she was arrested!.

  in my area we often alert fellow drivers of speed traps by flashing our lights.

  do you think there should be a law against this?.

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  How in the world did TWO of her cell phones become broken?

  One perhaps, but both?
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  Info @ Brooklyn Building Sales

  by Nellie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  see....this is the downside to leaving the forum for a while - you know you've missed out on great conversations and it takes f o r e v e r to find older threads.. so....help a-sista out....what's the 411 on the mass exodus from brooklyn, the sale of the buildings, the $$$$ made, etc.

  besides the obvious need to meet their legal payout needs (suppress all chuckles), has anyone followed the money trail?

  wassup?.

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  I think the stimulus for the Watchtower leaving Brooklyn was 911.

  The destruction of the World Trade Center happened too close to the location of the Watchtower Headquaters!
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  Things that were supposedly demonized

  by freshstart in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was just thinking about all the fear i had when i was a kid that i would be attacked by demons if i wasn't careful.

  i mean i lived in absolute terror over it, so i'm going to reminisce about the things i was told were demonized and you can add to the list if you'd like:.

  lucky charms cerealcount dracula cerealitems bought at garage sales where there was a cross or anything religious present"hotel california" by the eagles (now one of my favorite songs)wwjd braceletsscooby dooi remember being so scared of every little noise that whenever i would turn off my light to go to bed, i would say "jehovah, jehovah!

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  The 60s television programs "The Twilight Zone" and "The Outer Limits".....both demonized!!