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  most embarrasing thing ever at a meeting ...

  by alliwannadoislive in

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  hey ... i'm just getting into the swing of this great 'apostasy' thing right ... ?

  ... i thought y'all out there might well have a story or two to tell, so ... plz tell me tell me tell me about the most embarrasing thing you ever saw at a meeting ...

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  This happened years and years ago.

  A brother in the Linda Vista congregation had meant to say.
  "Let's take a break for intermission", but instead said.

  "Let's take a break for intercourse"!!!!
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  Which Thread Has the 215 vs 430 discrepency?

  by VM44 in

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  ok, i confess, i have not been keeping up with reading all the threads.. zev mentioned in a recent post that there was a thread that discussed.

  a discrepency in the watchtower about 215 vs. 430 years, could someone.

  tell me what thread this was in?.

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  VM44

  OK, I confess, I have not been keeping up with reading all the threads.

  Zev mentioned in a recent post that there was a thread that discussed
  a discrepency in the Watchtower about 215 vs. 430 years, could someone
  tell me what thread this was in?

  And what is the explaination for the difference?

  Thanks to all who respond.

  --VM44
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  Demons and Inanimate Objects - Unbiblical?

  by VM44 in

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  the watchtower society has for years written that demons might attach themselves.

  to inanimate objects, which an unwary jw might bring home.

  the demons then.

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  The Watchtower Society has for years written that demons might attach themselves
  to inanimate objects, which an unwary JW might bring home. The demons then
  proceed to torment the witness until the object is removed and destroyed, preferably
  by burning.

  Where in the Bible is it said that demons attach themselves to objects?

  If it is not in the Bible, then the Watchtower is guilty of promoting superstition, and
  instead of setting people free, they are enslaving them in bondage to fear.

  Or is it another way to control the people?

  --VM44
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  Box Tops for Brooklyn!

  by VM44 in

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  i was looking at the moyle court case transcript, and noticed that some of the.

  watchtower publications were included in the record.. one item from something that was like a "kingdom ministry" that caught my .

  attention was a notice about box tops!.

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  I was looking at the Moyle court case transcript, and noticed that some of the
  Watchtower publications were included in the record.

  One item from something that was like a "Kingdom Ministry" that caught my
  attention was a notice about Box Tops!

  In the late 1930's (1938?), the Watchtower had the Companies (congregations)
  involved in "Box Top" collection drives.

  The box tops would be sent to Headquaters for the Watchtower to redeam them
  for cash. (at least that is what I think they would redeam them for, they didn't
  use them for wallpaper!)

  I don't think anyone has mentioned this form of "theocratic" activity from the 30s
  before.

  --VM44
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  To Osarsif - Where are the H2O archives?

  by VM44 in

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  hi osarsif,.

  i saw you posting tonight, so i thought i woulf post this directly to you.. where are the h2o archives that you used to have at your site?.

  i hope they are still available.. --vm44

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  Here are the results of my attempt to download the files.

  I was able to download file 000.zip

  But all attempts to download other files have failed.

  A tranfer error would arise at some point during the
  downloads (once when one download was 96% complete...almost done!)
  and the download would terminate.

  The server the files are hosted on does not support "resume transfer"
  so I would have to start from the beginning on the next attempt.

  Anyone else experience this problem?

  --VM44
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  To Osarsif - Where are the H2O archives?

  by VM44 in

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  hi osarsif,.

  i saw you posting tonight, so i thought i woulf post this directly to you.. where are the h2o archives that you used to have at your site?.

  i hope they are still available.. --vm44

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  Thanks Osarif,

  I will keep checking and download them when they become available.

  They are an important resource!

  --VM44
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  A Chinese Meal with Fred Franz

  by VM44 in

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  near the beginning of the book, "the orwellian world of jehovah's.

  witnesses," one of the authors gives a personal experience where.

  he and others were treated by fred franz to a meal at a chinese.

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  Near the beginning of the book, "The Orwellian World of Jehovah's
  WItnesses," one of the authors gives a personal experience where
  he and others were treated by Fred Franz to a meal at a chinese
  restaurant.

  This was a very nice thing for Fred Franz to do, but one wonders
  how he could pay for everyone using only the small monthly allowances
  Bethel peopole receive.

  He must have used his WT expense account to pay for the meal.

  --VM44
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  Gobal Flood and Fresh Water Fish - a Problem!

  by VM44 in

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  i was reading some material concerning the noachian global flood,.

  and the simple point was made concerning fresh water fish, they.

  would have quickly died in single water mass covering the entire.

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  I was reading some material concerning the Noachian Global Flood,
  and the simple point was made concerning fresh water fish, they
  would have quickly died in single water mass covering the entire
  earth.

  I think this in itself would indicate the Flood could not be global.

  Did the Watchtower ever address this problem in their literature
  (or for that mater, has anyone addressed this problem?)

  --VM44
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  Carbon-14 Dating

  by Amazing in

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  hello all: in discussing evolution, creation, and bible chronology we will at some point pass through various dating methods that challenge religious beliefs, especially that of the watch tower religion.. some years ago the watch tower society published material (i forget the actual reference) that challenged carbob-14 dating as flawed and prone to error, especially when dating fossils.

  the wts cited some sources that dealt with sample contamination that may cause errors in reading half-life of carbon-14.. i wish i could find the article again, because it was published when i was still working in nuclear engineering.

  i recall feeling that the wts was stretching the claims to cover the understanding of bible chronology regarding the age of homo sapiens being about 4,026 years.

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  Thanks Amazaing, it will be an interesting reference.

  btw, Did you ever find the article you were looking for in the
  original post to this thread?

  --VM44
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  To Osarsif - Where are the H2O archives?

  by VM44 in

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  hi osarsif,.

  i saw you posting tonight, so i thought i woulf post this directly to you.. where are the h2o archives that you used to have at your site?.

  i hope they are still available.. --vm44

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  They had to be removed? Darn! Just when I was about to download
  them all!

  Any plans to find a site to host them?
  Hmmm, what about Randy's site? or the Watchtower-Observer?

  btw, How many and how large were the H2O files?

  --VM44