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  "Crisis of Conscience" text available on the Internet?

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  i'm not cheap, i'm not trying to scam ray's estate out of $15, i just want to download the book to my palm so i can read it when i get a chance.

  i'd grab it from the library, but it's not the sort of coffee-table book i need lying around the house at this point in my life!.

  thanks for any links!

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  Maybe Farkel is still on an adrenaline high from writing his "Rutherford Exposed" post? --VM44
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  Five Meetings and David's Five Stones (and other goofy things)...

  by Confucious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't think this was ever written in a wt, but i've heard it more than once as a comment.

  that when david reached into his bag to sling a stone at goliath - that he had five stones to choose from.

  and the comment was... .

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  That when David reached into his bag to sling a stone at Goliath - that he had five stones to choose from.
  "And just like us, we have five meetings a week. And like David, we never know which 'stone' we will need to ward off 'Goliath.'"

  This is a good example of how many JWs reason. It might be called "reasoning through parallels and illustrations," the non sequitur conclusions are often humorous.

  --VM44
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  Philosophy: Satan's tool?

  by M.J. in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard much railing from the wts about the snares of "worldly philosophies".

  according to the wts, much of what is evil in the world, including the teachings of "babylon the great" is rooted in philosophy.

  this appears to be one of their hotbutton "buzzwords" to promote irrational fear about anything related to philosophy.

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  Dr Richard Feynman's "philosophical" poem. --VM44

  I wonder why I wonder why,
  I wonder why I wonder;
  I wonder why I wonder why,
  I wonder why I wonder..
  -- Richard Feynman
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  "Crisis of Conscience" text available on the Internet?

  by AlmostAtheist in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not cheap, i'm not trying to scam ray's estate out of $15, i just want to download the book to my palm so i can read it when i get a chance.

  i'd grab it from the library, but it's not the sort of coffee-table book i need lying around the house at this point in my life!.

  thanks for any links!

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  Did a search for the CoC chapters online. They are not to be found!

  It was over a year ago I saw them. They must have been removed....Sorry.

  --VM44
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  "Crisis of Conscience" text available on the Internet?

  by AlmostAtheist in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not cheap, i'm not trying to scam ray's estate out of $15, i just want to download the book to my palm so i can read it when i get a chance.

  i'd grab it from the library, but it's not the sort of coffee-table book i need lying around the house at this point in my life!.

  thanks for any links!

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  I found CoC online once, but it was an older edition. Each chapter was a separate pdf file.

  --VM44
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  Where is the Philosophy Thread? Pioneer Sister cannot study Philosophy!

  by VM44 in

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  there was a thread here, about philosophy.

  a good description of the various branches of philosophy was posted and some comments about how the wts view philosophy.

  i cannot find that thread!!

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  Here it is:

  "Philosophy: Satan's Tool"

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/77057/1.ashx

  --VM44
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  Criticisms of Pastor Russell

  by RR in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jens in a pm reminded me of a pastor russell biography that was in the works some years ago.

  problems after problems prevented it from going forward.

  in the meanwhile there have been a few pastor russell's biographies in the works, some by bible students others by outsiders.

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  RR,

  There was a bioigraphy entitled "Charles Taze Russell, Early American Zionist." I have not seen a copy of it however.

  You might also add to the list

  * Strange medical cures/statements - grape cure, cancer cure, appendcitis due to biting worms, etc

  Although I believe Russell was trying to help by printing these things. He was a good businessman, but did not know anything about medicine.

  * Phrenology, that the shape of the bumps on one's head determines one's personality/abilities, etc.

  * fascination with occult topics, such as pyramid prophecies, wing-sun globe symbols

  * ready to believe crackpot ideas about astronomy, such as the Isaac Newton Vail Annular Ring theory for the source of the Flood waters. (again, show CTR had no basic education in many subjects, other than business and accounting perhaps) (Isaac Vail is another example of a man who fell in love with his own ideas.)

  * Did not think it was necessary to know original Biblical languages such as Greek or Hebrew. Thought if you had enough translations of the Bible it was enough. (His lack of knowing even the complete Greek alphabet was demonstrated in a court of law once, after that CTR did not take the stand anymore as far as I know)

  and there are probably a lot more that could be added to the list.

  --VM44
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  Parachute fails to open - Solar capsule crashes into Earth

  by Elsewhere in

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  damn!

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3638926.stmsolar capsule crashes into earth a capsule from the genesis probe, which has been gathering particles blown off the sun, has crashed back to earth.

  the capsule entered the atmosphere as planned at 1555gmt (1655bst) but its drogue parachute failed to open.

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  The capsule was designed to scoop particles from space, there was a malfunction, and it crashed in the desert.

  Reminds me of The Andromeda Strain!

  --VM44
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  Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

  he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

  up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

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  hi larc and Lady lee,

  It is Our Suday School Lesson, or something like that

  I don't see it on "the best of larc" list. Different name?

  --VM44

  editied to add:

  Oops! Paged down and there it is!

  Nevermind
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  Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

  he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

  up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

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  Hi Athanasius,

  Thank you for answering my question, as to where the Covington quote appeared (Leonard Chretien's book, "Witnesses of Jehovah"), and who is writing the Rutherford biography (You!).

  Probably the interest in Rutherford's affairs has more to do with it being known by his associates, but overlooked and ignored. The Judge and the Jehovah's WItnesses at that time were so closely identified that any serious scandel concerning Rutherford could probably have ended the religion. Even now the Watchtower praises Rutherford for his qualities, and even says he is a good example for elders and circuit servants to follow! (ugh!)

  Information about Rutherford's political career is scarce, about the only thing I heard is that he briefly campaigned for William Jennings Bryan when Bryan ran for President. (from the "Visions of Glory" book by Barbara Harrison).

  I look forward very much to when your Rutherford biography will be published, and hope it will be soon. I will be one of the first to purchase a copy!

  best regards,

  VM44