they tell you it's 'loving".
baloney!.
disfellowshipping is cruel punishment.. it is not "christian".. .
It's the religious equivalent of Berlin Wall politics ... "they will stay our subjects if we make it too hard to leave".
Look what happened to that wall. Some things are simply unsustainable.
Excellent point, Simon. But it's sobering to realize that many East Germans never wished to go the West...and freedom.
this is a true experience that i thought i would share, one that occurred just a few years ago in my area.
it is a real experience, nothing made up here.. a younger couple moved into our kh, into the joining congregation (so not ours, but the other one that shared our kh).
they seemed nice enough, they had one boy that was about 8, and a baby on the way.
I agree with Fernando. After all,catholics have less priests per congregation than the jws, who have multiple men in positions of absolute power "over the flock" protecting themselves and all other men in the congregation. They have NO morals and heartlessly allow so many children and teens to be abused.
If they believed in Hell, they'd all be headed there at the top of the list.
my husband and i (both born in jws with extended family all "in" except for one of my sisters who left when we did) left the church 5 years ago.
we did not fade, we just didn't believe it anymore, told our families so and left.
obviously, big drama in our family after this, messy feelings, etc.
Saving this!
adjustments, can you please refrain from posting all your threads in all caps?.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/member/93865/started/1.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/member/93865/started/2.
C'mon kids, play nice. No need for all the shouting. :)
has anyone had success with a high traffic website or blog ?.
it might take a team of people to accomplish.. ads pay and people count, lots and lots of people.
does jehovahs-witness.net make money every time someone looks at the web site?
Sarahsmile...did someone hack your profile? Fever or not, that didn't sound like you. Hope all is well now.
hi, to everyone my username is enzo, .
recently a saw a video presented by john cedar presenting steve hassan as a cult expert.. .
but read this reviews presented on cult news about steve hassan's books, and it's up to you make your own opinion about the video.
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so i was just thinking about my days at wtf and driving out for book study when it dawned on me.. bethelites are given a stipend for travel based on nyc public transportation.
depending on how you pay let's just call it a $5.00 round trip.. if you drive your care you're also reimbursed for mileage at the standard irs rate.
let's round that down to .50 per mile.. if four bethelites get in a car and drive an average of 30 miles to the (former) bookstudy the society is spending 4x$5.00 for the stipend plus and additional $30.00 for mileage.
I think it was for both monetary and control reasons. We actually used to sit around and discuss things after the book study...but you can't do that at a kh. Toe the party line, people...and put (y)our money in the coffers.
i'm giving 3 examples of this practice--that i know of personally.. .
my first wife--born in--divorced me over 30 years ago.
she totally shuns our son--now 38--d/f'd and now happily married and enjoying life to the max.. my pioneer partner--from the mid 60's-----he totally shuns his daughter---to the point of even ignoring her in the street.. a close friend of mine--in the 60's and 70's-----i was best man at his wedding.
Bigmac, I agree wholeheartedly.
so is it a must and an absolute requirement to be a ministerial servant in the org?.
i was told that if i refuse an appointment as an ms then it means i'm opposing "jehovah's call to service".
But you cannot be da'd or df'd for turning it down. They are just trying to pressure you to do What They Want, not What's Best For You. They don't really care about you but they always want more unpaid labor to light their workload.
It's your life, not theirs. HUGS to you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycb9blknu2g&list=uuzxbfewkkmm36zfo1xfkm7g.
this is a video from 1990 that waas posted about four years ago on randy watter's youtube channel.
it's long but reveals the emotions one experiences as they wake up and realize how much they've been misled and lied to by the organization who claimed to represent god.. thankfully jennifer's dad never gave up trying to give her a rewarding and fulfilling life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCb9bLkNu2g&list=UUzXBfEwkKmm36zFo1XFkm7g
This is a video from 1990 that waas posted about four years ago on Randy Watter's youtube channel. It's long but reveals the emotions one experiences as they wake up and realize how much they've been misled and lied to by the organization who claimed to represent God.
Thankfully Jennifer's dad never gave up trying to give her a rewarding and fulfilling life.
