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  Change of mindset.

  by thedog1 in

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  2. friends

  i have been a witness for a long time and still serve as an elder.

  there have been a lot of changes to deal with in the last six months or so since i stumbled on this site due to questions i had about all the recent changes in understanding published in the wt.

  many posters here talk about a cult personality and a real personality.

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  saving for later
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  Im new and need help!

  by Batman89 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello everybody, before i begin i just wanna say that i have really found alot of great posts on here that have been helpful forme , theres definitely alot of brilliant people here!.

  i am a born in jw(24 years old) ive been baptized for 7 years and was a ministerial servant for 4 years(i am no longer one).

  recently me and my parents have have woken up to ttatt(about 2 months ago).

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  Batman, you might also consider the comments in Jonza's "Dating a JW Woman" thread...

  Best wishes to you and your family!
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  What I said to my wife

  by Frazzled UBM in

  1. social
  2. family

  all - so my wife told me she was going to the kh yesrterday.

  it has been a couple of months so i was a bit disappointed but i sucked it in.

  i thought about it for a while and when we had a quiet moment together i said to her: "i know you need to make an appearance every once in a while to avoid the risk of being asked to da yourself and being shunned.

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  Any seniors looking for association?

  by cultBgone in

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  2. relationships

  life is tough when you've spent your best years in the borg...how do you reconnect when kids are grown and you're close to retirement age?.

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  LisaRose, happy to hear your sales were good! Best wishes on your trip tomorrow. (((hugs)))

  Grace, love your sense of humor! (((hugs)))

  Time for bed, so (((hugs))) for everyone as well!
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  Involved with a JW woman

  by jonza in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  okay so i'm dating a born-in jw woman, she's younger than me and has no kids.

  i'm a christian man whos divorced with 2 kids.

  we're in love and seriously want to be together.

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  Jonza, it sounds as if she is trying to say what you want to hear so as to win you over, but her true feelings surface when either religion or children are being discussed, yes? You are no doubt a wonderful man who deserves a happy future, so please ask yourself:

  Do I wish to spend my remaining years with someone who is unable to fully commit to our marriage?

  When she pressures me to have children in the future, what will that do to our relationship? Her words might say No Children because of the "no jw" ultimatum, but her actions and reactions say Yes, I want my own kids. She clearly resents that situation now, and you're not even married.

  Please make a list of the things that will be recurring issues (worship, children, holidays, birthdays, child support to your ex, donations to the jws, time spent apart for religious activities, etc.). Write down the best-case and worst-case scenarios...put it all down on paper in your own hand. Study that list. Be honest with yourself, for your children, and for the jw woman. This is a life-changing decision, so try as best you can to make it based on facts for we all know that strong emotions can easily make facts forgotten. Then, whatever your decision, at least you will make it with your mind and not just your heart. Make your decision with your eyes wide open.

  You've shown wisdom and humility to have come here and read counsel from all of us strangers who, remarkably, have your best interests at heart. Wishing you the best future for you, your children, and for this young woman who is obviously so unsettled in her heart.

  As Robert so kindly says, Peace be with you.
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  Wanna do some trolling? Support freedom!

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  havin' a ball over here with these nutters!!!.

  https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153864344305377&set=pb.212641675376.-2207520000.1396679084.&type=3&theater.

  come troll with me.

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  FUNNY!!! Lots of jws commented negatively, can you imagine??
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  I wonder if my mom will ever go back to the meetings ?

  by scary21 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, my 89 year old jw mom has been in her new apartment now for over 4 months.

  my sister and i moved her back to mi.

  from fl.. we were forced to by the jw's who wanted to commit her.

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  Sherry, I think whenever the bonds of forced association, meeting attendance and studying are removed, the healing begins. I had a daughter who was off work for many weeks and could not go to the meetings or service. Her personality actually went through a healing and she became the wonderful person I remembered. That is, until she got back on the jw wagon, and now I only see a few glimpses of the real "her".

  Don't worry about your mom's dementia, while it may slowly advance, her removal from the borg will heal her brain to an extent. (I'n not dismissing the dementia, I had a parent with alzheimer's for 17 years so I "get" it.)

  Wish Memphis wasn't so far away! We'd hang out! (((hugs)))
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  Involved with a JW woman

  by jonza in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  okay so i'm dating a born-in jw woman, she's younger than me and has no kids.

  i'm a christian man whos divorced with 2 kids.

  we're in love and seriously want to be together.

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  Jonza, not sure if anyone already asked this and I missed it...but exactly how did the two of you end up in this relationship? Was it through a website? I'm curious as to what she, as a jw, was doing in reaching out to a worldly man when she knew it would cause a problem if her elders knew. Just trying to understand her mindset, is all.

  I will tell you this...jws are trained manipulators. They don't realize it, of course, and I'm not putting a negative label on her as a person. I'm sure she believes everything that she is telling you.

  Here's the deal: when you say "aside from religion she's perfect for me", you MUST (and this is the main point of every thread you've read here)...you must understand that to a jw, the RELIGION always trumps everything else. The RELIGION is dominant, and as long as she is in a relationship with the RELIGION, you will always, always always and forever be in second place. ALWAYS.

  Please don't do this. You and your wonderful children will suffer like you can't believe. (((HUGS)))
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  I Heard A Longtime Elder, Recently Deleted, Announced To Congregation That He Was Publicly Disassociating Himself!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i heard that it happened a couple of days ago.

  he's in his 60's, was a prominent bethelite from a long line of bible student/jw family.. another one bites the dust..

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  Agree with Oub, that was hysterical! Don't you wish....LOL!!!
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  The future of "memorial emblems"

  by theopug in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  any of you guys remember memorial invitations from the 80s?

  it seemed like a lot of them had a picture of a glass of wine and a plate of bread.

  this year's invite and at least 2 years prior, no emblems are shown in the invite.

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  Always thought it odd how the number of "Partakers" continued to rise each year. It was supposed to be spiraling down to almost zero so the END could come!

  Whoops, let's change our theology once again...