dr. jena barchas-lichtenstein is an anthropologist who received her doctorate through ucla.. https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jena-barchas-lichtenstein/43/427/702.
in 2013, barchas-lichtenstein submitted the paper "when the dead are resurrected, how are we going to speak to them?
": jehovah's witnesses and the use of indigenous languages in the globalizing textual community as a partial submission for her doctoral dissertation..
Blondie, I remember hearing that same statement. Along those lines we were told that it would be much too confusing for those who lived centuries ago to suddenly be thrust into the world with electricity, airplanes and automobiles. Yet I never saw those things in wt renderings of "paradise" so that didn't make sense.
Sometimes I think they have new ideas in a few talks to see if they stick. If not, you don't hear them again, they just try something else that doesn't raise so many questions.
so i decided to sign up after many years of lurking.
started researching after finding out about ray franz, which inevitably brought me to this site.. i'm still well and truly inn, but don't want to give any information out, i'm sure you guys know the reasons.. since "jay double you .
org" came online, there has been a definite sense of hysteria with everyone who is "inn", and i get a feeling it's going to get a whole lot crazier as the years press on.. one point i would like to raise is that i feel, without a doubt, that 2034 is going to be the new finish line.
you have to watch the movie "the giver"!
it is simply an awesome movie for every thinking witness, or those trying to break free from the org's hold on us.. i wont give away too much, but the concept of the film is mind blowing!
utopia vs reality etc... conformity vs individuality and humanity... etc.
found this on youtube.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy3zlxley6u.
all i want is this: for us to be a family, to spend time together enjoying life.
i don't wish to debate about their beliefs when together.
they can remain jws for all i care.
Wish I had answers to help. All this proves is that the watchtower / jws should be ashamed of their horrible practices which absolutely serve to destroy families.
The phony reinstatement idea is a bad one, imo. You would be more intensely miserable than you are now.
So sorry this is happening to you.
tell us a little about yourself and your family.i grew up in the organization and baptized at age 10 years 11 months.
i lost my father to cancer and nearly lost my mom (thank goodness i didn't) to an illness both in 1999, i became inactive in 2000, and came out of the closet in 2001.. were you a born in or a convert?i was born in.
are your parents / family jws?
interesting article in time magazine, from a former witness.. time magazine.
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ok, so the time has finally come to register an account on this site.
not that i think i have much to contribute to the discussions here, but more out of a desire to show that yet another person has learned ttatt.
i am a fader, not discussing ttatt with anyone as i know the inevitable outcome it would have.
LMR, welcome to the site and congratulations on awakening to TTATT. When I was first fading, this site seemed pretty hardcore and I found it difficult to enjoy. I still have those days when I just shake my head and close the screen, but now I just attribute it to a few wacky or outspoken posters, not to a bunch of crazy apostates. We are all unique but we've all been scarred to some degree by the jdub religion, so we're united like a huge extended family.
yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
there are a few things i picked up from watchtowerism that i still find value in.
(although, i could have easily picked them up elsewhere.).
one of these is the 30-day test to abstain from all booze.. .
I remember when the article came out. My (now ex-) husband who was the lush of the land, a secret daytime drinker, nighttime pornography viewer, and one who made it a point to have beer at dinner on the way to the hall while the rest of us always decined, decided he would stop for 30 days but didn't tell me about "the challenge". When his month was up, he pointed out to his elder buddies that I continued to have some beers of an evening and made it sound like I had NOT been able to stop like he did. What a jerk. So glad he's gone, better that he remarried and got (briefly - daddy an elder) disfellowshipped for adultery/not being "scripturally free". He's a shining example of jwdumb.
Not suggesting that anyone on this site would do this, but please be careful about using these types of admonishments as barometers of anyone else's behavior. Jdubs love to treat suggestions like this as rules, and that stuff can stay with ya.
