Good grief. All hail the Frumpiness Dress Code!
And what about females who display masculine traits? Why are the gb so danged worried about gay men?
as sometimes happens at elders meetings with the co, he has a letter from the branch to read out.
this rarely is made available later so any policies have to be acted on from memory.
this visit a letter was read about blurring of the genders and in particular brothers dressing in a metrosexual style - tight clothing was mentioned again.
Good grief. All hail the Frumpiness Dress Code!
And what about females who display masculine traits? Why are the gb so danged worried about gay men?
yesterday, a jwn poster e-mailed me asking if i would post on this discussion board his recent email to steven unthank and also post stevens reply.
the reason for the request is because the poster has need to remain completely anonymous.
i agreed to share the email because i knew you would find stevens reply informative and interesting.. .
bttt for the many new ones who may not be aware
i have seen posts on several you tube sites stating that jackson said during his rc testimony that jw's don't shun, celebrating christmas is not a disfellowshipping offence, birthdays are ok and ones doesn't have to agree with jw doctrine.
i have read most of the posts on other threads while and after his testimony but never read any of this?
did he really say these things or is someone on the net just stirring up some bs?.
i got a call from my mother-in-law the other day begging me to go to the hall this past sunday for a special talk.
i didn't go but was wondering what the deal is?
details please..
freddo, you left out *SOON!*
"so that we will not be confused with salesmen, it is best not to mention the donation arrangement unless we are asked how our work is financed.".
this damning quote is found on page 1 of the september 2015 our kingdom ministry, the last sentence in the 3rd bullet point under the sub-heading how to do it.
this quote amounts to an implicit admission that the jw practice of mentioning the donation arrangement to householders at the door, makes them look like door to door salesmen.. why would "jehovah's organization" be engaging in a practice that is nothing more than a transparent attempt at undercover soliciting?
it's finally hit mainstream media in the us!
let's hope some savvy investigative journalists see a pulitzer for opening up this story to cover the us and worldwide cases.. jehovahs-witnesses-face-child-sex-abuse-investigation-in-australia/2015/08/14/.
everyone who is able should hurry up and post comments on their website as the pro-jw forces have rallied and are trying to squash this as libel.
Steve2, I already addressed your points on page one. It may be a month old, but I just ran across it during a search. Does that make it invalid? Why so negative?
LisaRose, sorry that I missed those earlier posts.
last night i was looking over the notes on my old elders book and one of the instructors told us to write this down.
"when you want to get the friends to believe and obey anything, just keep saying it over and over and over and eventually they will believe it and follow whatever they are being told.
when i went back to school, i learned this quote in one of my world history classes..
Sorry but if my husband was getting lap dances in any sort of bar, I'd kick his butt out. Some men may think that's okay (macho guy stuff, ya know) but to most woman it's no different than having an affair. Sex as "sport" changes the intimacy in a relationship and breaks the bonds of trust. Doesn't matter if it was under or over the clothing as the intention is the same.
You definitely did that woman a favor.
just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.
you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.
up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.
Morpheus, if that is "most certainly provable", please do so. Otherwise your comment sounds terribly mysogynist in nature.
Not all women "withhold sex as means of manipulation and negative reinforcement".
just on of the perks of being an apostate who is married to a branwashed, blinded jw woman.
you know, we have been married for ~27 years....most of which we had nothing to do with the piece of shite cult.
up till the begining of 2014 was when i woke up.
To classify any woman who does not feel like having sex as "withholding it" (as if using a weapon) shows a complete lack of understanding of women's emotions. Granted, there are probably many women who DO use sex as a weapon, and we all (including other women) consider them to be first class b*tches.
But as Steve2 wisely pointed out: As a rule,whereas the male sexual drive can function even in the absence of love and affection, women's cannot. Why turn a physiological and psychological (sp corr) difficulty in sexual functioning into a combative phrase such as using it as a weapon?
It's probably very difficult for some men to understand that women just don't get turned on when they are upset. It's not always a vindictive act, although in GTTM's case it may well be.
I don't support an instant call for divorce where younger children are involved, but having grown up in a family where it would have been better had the parents divorced, I cannot condemn it either. The line about "children deserving two parents" does not take into account the negative drama that lives within a family when the parents cannot reconcile their relationship. Better to have great times separately with each parent than to have crappy times with them both.
GTTM, only you can decide what the climate is like in your household and how you should handle it. Even though you are understandably angry at the cult, there may be a different feeling once some of this anger wears off. However, if your wife continues to act ugly and cold toward, it may be very difficult to try the "wine and dine" approach. I think many here totally understand your pain and anger. Perhaps by venting here to us, it will help you to lessen your anger level at home and allow you to clearly see the path you need to walk. Give yourself some time to see how this plays out. No matter what decisions you make, we will be here to support you.
mta driver suspended after drunken long island joyride was seen at depot but somehow still got hold of city bus: officials.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/mta-driver-suspended-drunken-long-island-joyride-article-1.2359826.
olga calderon, 50, who lives a few homes down, said copeland leaves at dawn to drive buses in the city and he spends his days off at home with his wife.
Gee, I thought the neighbors' comments were pretty kind. What did they say that his daughter so upset about?
(And who knew you could drive buses for $84K?)