Fine letter, Ern.
It's great that your wife will talk to you about this. I talked with a jw 2 days ago, and he just shrugged it off. "I still believe in Jehovah, yada yada."
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i have some unique and troubling news.
i just got off the telephone with scott boer, vicki boer's husband and before that vicki.
her honour, justice anne molloy, has just ruled on the legal cost issue in the boer case.
Fine letter, Ern.
It's great that your wife will talk to you about this. I talked with a jw 2 days ago, and he just shrugged it off. "I still believe in Jehovah, yada yada."
waiting
if any of you wish to kindly make donations to vicki boer, we are formulating a vehicle to attend to this as we speak.. we have been in touch with vicki, who is understandably deeply distressed at the turn of events that have forced her to relive much of the trauma which she hoped that this court case would put to rest, and are wresting a plan which would allow her to receive personal donations aimed at her well-being rather than enriching either the wts or her advisers.. an address will be forthcoming shortly, together with a paypal email address which will allow you to send your donations or well-wishes to vicki, scott and the girls.
it will not be a canadian address or bank account.
there are a number of important points that any donators would need to assess before donating any cash:.
Great point, Dawn.
We're a free people. We can give to whomever we choose.
Right now, there are several people/organizations which could use our help. Vicki is one of them.
We can choose to help out who we want.
What Vicki chooses to do with the money is her choice. Just like sending Christmas money!
The WTBTS used to tell us who we could talk to, send money to, buy from, read which words, think about which thoughts.
The freedom to help another individual regardless of their race, color or creed is a new thing for some of us. Guess it's time to back our free words with some cash to help another, eh?
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maybe to add to the letter campaign you all can email the oprah show regarding vicki.. who knows where it will lead!.
here's a link to her email.
http://www.oprah.com/email/reach/email_reach_fromu.jhtml.
Hey beryl,
Yeah, I know what you mean.......it's hard to get started. Then it's hard for me to stop rambling.
http://hometown.aol.ca/scullyxjw/vb-letters.html
This is the site Scully & Expatbrit put together with Uzzah's press release & Newpaper report.
Just print them out or put them in your email as a click (news report) .
Or just cut/paste from them.
THIS IS WHY WE NEED AN AREA WHERE ALL THIS INFORMATION IS TOGETHER!
ADDRESSES & SAMPLE LETTERS
in addition to submitting letters to those on the list provided by expatbrit and scully voicing displeasure over the vicki boer decision, i sent letters to the canadian embassy in washington, dc.
the ambassador, his assistant, press spokesperson, and media relations officer can be reached at the following address: .
michael f. kergin, ambassador.
Hey 7 & others,
I DO think all these addresses found here and on other threads need to be IN THE SAME PLACE. We can use them this time ...............but what about two weeks from now? These addresses will be lost in the shuffle.
Can there be a forum of ADDRESSES? In this same forum - SAMPLE LETTERS?
Surely, this wouldn't be a difficult thing? I haven't asked Simon......should we campaign him with pm's and emails?
Should we just throw his brit ass in the pool/ocean when we get to Florida?
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this is from cbc news online .
student wrongly accused of sex abuse wins case .
last updated fri, 03 oct 2003 9:23:17 .
Hello needs-alot,
I did not have the choice of a jury.
I don't know Canadian law, nor the differences between providences, etc. But sure as hell, someone else does.
Was your lawsuit something so different than hers that you weren't entitled to a jury? Or can the judge just decide?
What's the law up there?
I don't even know if you want to talk about this - I don't know if I would if I were in your circumstances. But it might be worth asking some people about - other attorneys other than your attorney?
If I can be assistance to you, please let me know. What was done to you was fucking awful. No other way to say it, imho.
But remember this - you are one hell of a great person. Just average (no offense) in some ways, I suspect (as I am). But you stood up and you won. Even if you hadn't won..........you still stood up.
Congratulations. The WTBTS can never take that from you and it's more than 99% of the population ever does. You stood up and you won.
A True Hero.
waiting
this is from cbc news online .
student wrongly accused of sex abuse wins case .
last updated fri, 03 oct 2003 9:23:17 .
"Time and unforseen circumstances" aside................this would make a great follow-up letter in our mail campaign for Vicki.
Others in government and in news also might know why - or speculate and ask questions.
We might not know why..............but we sure as hell can "ADVERTISE ADVERTISE ADVERTISE" - Pastor Russell
this is from cbc news online .
student wrongly accused of sex abuse wins case .
last updated fri, 03 oct 2003 9:23:17 .
Why is there such a disparity in these rulings?
Judge vs jury
WTBTS religion vs. University
Proven sexual abuse victim vs slander victim
Proven sexual abuse victim wins $5,000 - slander victim wins $800,000
Proven victim PAYS $240,000 her own & losing side's lawyers - slander victim RECEIVES $800,000
maybe to add to the letter campaign you all can email the oprah show regarding vicki.. who knows where it will lead!.
here's a link to her email.
http://www.oprah.com/email/reach/email_reach_fromu.jhtml.
Thanks Gizmo!
I saved the address & will email today.
Btw, it would be better, imho, if you added this address to an existing thread with addresses? That way, when a person is looking to help Vicki - it'll be put more in the same place.
It's hard enough to find time to print, address & send letters & emails without having to search as to where we once saw the addresses..........and the threads keep moving!
Whatcha think, eh?
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this letter campaign is designed to convey public outrage at the watch tower society's treatment of vicki boer.
it has been designed so that, depending on how many copies you send, you should be able to complete it in 15-30 minutes.
thanks to scully, there is now no need to go the email route, all the materials you need are now on the web.. the home page for the letter campaign is here: http://hometown.aol.ca/scullyxjw/vb-letters.html.
Though they may not like what you say, politicians care what you think. Some care only about categories: how many are for this and how many against it? Some care about the details: why are you for or opposed and what do you think are the important issues? Some make it easy for you to contact them: they or their staff will respond to telephone calls, letters and post cards, emails. Some respond to mail but seem to ignore email entirely . Some refuse to provide an email address on their web site.
The best ways to get the attention of any local official is usually by picking up the phone or sending a letter or postcard. There's something about a piece of paper or a voice that takes up some staff time that gets more attention, especially now that so many government offices are flooded by mass-produced email barrages. That is no reason not to use email?politicians always count communications on issues from citizens, whatever their method of transmission. And many of them do take email as seriously as anything else.~The Buffalo Report.
this might be something that can be used to attract media attention when writing future letters to them.
tie it in with the red cross' awareness initiative and how even organizations can be found negligent in their dealings with abused children.. just food for thought and thinking out loud..
a much deserved bttt. I'm outta words currently.