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I'm Screwed Up, You're Screwed Up

by Farkel in

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i have not followed very many threads of late, so if someone has already made the same observations i'm about to make, i apologize for my redundancy.. .

i admit it: i'm part of a highly secretive, highly elite group.

(we have to drink two quarts of fresh yak blood and get a tattoo of a pentagram on our butts as part of of the initiation.

waiting1

Howdy Cowboy,

When I first came to this board,I was impressed with the debates.Many intellegent and well-spoken posters made it very interesting and educational.But,either it's gotten worse in the short time I've been here,or I just didn't see it in the beginning.

I think the intelligent, well-speaking, interesting, educational people are still here, along with the others like me. I know that some posters have just gone away, for a variety of reasons.

But different issues bring out different emotions. Some are tied to male/female, money, jw background, sex - and we now have the freedom to say what we want - any way we want. Some of us take our freedom of words to an extreme.

But for what it's worth - this is an exceptional place at times. At other times, guess it's just human.

I also agree with Farkel for the most part, and posted as such with Happy Heathen. Glad you brought back the thread to it's intended subject - giving room for allowances to others, particularily with our screwy jw background.

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Michael Jackson still a JW!

by ShaunaC in

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last night on one of the entertainment magazines shows they said that michael jackson just gave an interview to tv guide.

in it he says he is still a jw and still goes door to door in disguise.

i had heard a rumour recently that he still donated a lot of money to the society but had no clue he still claimed to be one.

waiting1

Howdy Amazing,

Prince, a Michael Jackson copy-cat recently became a JW, and has changed some of his lyrics and songs to be more proactive toward the Paradise Earth belief. - Amazing

He now sings rock songs about God's killing 99.9% of the people on the earth - therefore making a Paradise Earth for Jehovah's Witnesses and mentally unstable (at least until the resurrection)?

Betcha that little diddy will make him a bundle!

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OK...Let's Be Honest About Love

by ladonna in

ok guys and girls,.

we have recently had a "crush" thead to which many of you responded with such enthusiasm.. but what about "love"?.

who is "in love" with someone on jw.com???.

waiting1

Howdy tw,

It is called Beloved.net. Of course I haven't been on there for over a year.

Of course? That just made me smile. I know people that ***perhaps*** would have zoomed back in within a couple of months!

Glad it worked out so well for you and your husband. Rather like my husband and I. We met at business seminar, went back home, talked on the phone for two weeks, met at another business seminar then, and got married on the way home. We actually "dated" for a week.

It's been 20 years and none regretted, - well, occasionally. However, and a big one at that, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. I told my daughter I'd slap her upside the head if she tried a cheap trick like her mother pulled.

It could have turned out terrible - and only a couple of days later did that fact occur to me. Slow on everything but walking down the tacky isle in a Los Vegas Love Chapel at 11:30 pm on Christmas Eve. The only sober people there.

Good luck and stupidity run hand in hand sometimes - as in my case.

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WERE JW'S REALLY INVOLVED @GROUND ZERO?

by crittersitter in

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my currently devout jw sis told me how "proud" she was of the bro's at the wtc and how they fed , and comforted all those ppl...this told at the meetings i suppose.

or was this just spin?

i think i read (was it here) that the doors of hq got locked up so outsiders could not come in..... did they really get involved" or was it enuff to make them look good?.

waiting1

Howdy tele,

If you've never had the "spiritual shepherding" of your Book Study conductor asking you to "step aside" after the meeting to chat about your Field Service Report time reported (being low).......well, you've missed a common occurrence in our neck of the woods.

Then the publisher get the priveledge of explaining his own private life to justify what is being perceived as "token service." Try to explain that "No, I don't think I'm 'spiritually weak'. My conscience allowed me to take my family to the park twice this month on Saturday morning to watch softball."

Elder: "Well, brother, even though your conscience allowed it, doesn't necessarily mean that your conscience is bible trained and spiritually healthy, now does it?"

So................if brothers/sisters/children can be pulled aside to be asked why their field service hours are not up to the standards of whatever country we live in (10 hrs a month in usa last I heard).........the WTBTS can be asked publicly exactly what they did in their Field Service Report in an extreme emergency situation.

Besides, when they've put out Awake! magazine articles on helping in war/disasters in foreign countries -- they put in how many TONS of food, supplies, clothing given to our brothers -- and "our brothers" only.

And again besides, you're the one who said one of your elders worked in WTBTS warehouse - he should know quantities, don't you think? ]

You opened the door to the question.

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156

I'm Screwed Up, You're Screwed Up

by Farkel in

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friends

i have not followed very many threads of late, so if someone has already made the same observations i'm about to make, i apologize for my redundancy.. .

i admit it: i'm part of a highly secretive, highly elite group.

(we have to drink two quarts of fresh yak blood and get a tattoo of a pentagram on our butts as part of of the initiation.

waiting1

Hey English,

Well, I'm not the least bit screwed up. I am absolutely normal in every way, and if everyone was just like me, then the world would be a lovely place to be.

A quote I always liked:

You'll find no one more agreeable than I am as long as everyone agrees with me. Author unknown at the moment

Hey Wendy

My daughter, from 7 to 9 months during pregnancy, had the hiccups every night about 8 pm. And..........she's still a hiccup. That woman has more energy than I ever dreamed of having. Of course, she's 31, never had any children - could explain the excess of energy, eh?

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Sorry for Delays

by Farkel in

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hello, everone.

i'm posting this to let it be known that i only have about 30 minutes a day to be on the internet.

i have not been able to get to all my mail, nor read much at all on this board.. i sincerely apologize to those who've written me and not received a response.

waiting1

Howdy Farkel,

Glad to hear from you. Enjoy your spare time from us - you've earned it. Can you get a suntan this time of year out there? Good.

Howdy Yadirf

Welcome to the party. You saying "I have to be nice" just brings a natural smile to my face.

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WERE JW'S REALLY INVOLVED @GROUND ZERO?

by crittersitter in

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friends

my currently devout jw sis told me how "proud" she was of the bro's at the wtc and how they fed , and comforted all those ppl...this told at the meetings i suppose.

or was this just spin?

i think i read (was it here) that the doors of hq got locked up so outsiders could not come in..... did they really get involved" or was it enuff to make them look good?.

waiting1

Howdy Nytele,

the wts society donated various material supplies as requested by the mayor
masks
gloves
hardware
etc
vehicles for transportation..society drive of course
the policeman at the have made use of 90 sands
crashing on the couch
but what do i know...i am only 8 miles from bethel and one
of my elders works in warehouse - nytele

Since one of your elders works in warehouse (presumably the WTBTS warehouse), EXACTLY what gross quantity of the above items (including batteries) did they supply freely? What is "hardware"? What is "etc."? How many vehicles were chauffered for the firemen and for how long?

And what does this mean?

the policeman at the have made use of 90 sands
crashing on the couch

And WHY hasn't the WTBTS come publicly forward and donated money? Afterall, we were taught to ask for donations door-to-door for their work. Why couldn't they help others with the necessities - including their money? It's one of the things the victims, families, and city needs immediately and long term.

And since your elder is in the WT spin arena, how do you know if he's spinnin' you or not?

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156

I'm Screwed Up, You're Screwed Up

by Farkel in

jw
friends

i have not followed very many threads of late, so if someone has already made the same observations i'm about to make, i apologize for my redundancy.. .

i admit it: i'm part of a highly secretive, highly elite group.

(we have to drink two quarts of fresh yak blood and get a tattoo of a pentagram on our butts as part of of the initiation.

waiting1

Hello Voice of Reason,

Julie,
I think everyone understands that you're trying to be a loyal friend to Farkel, but I honestly don't think you're helping matters any. What started out as a nice thread has turned into a typical JW.com mud-fest. (I shouldn't complain; it's these rows that have given me substance on this earthly plane.) It's pretty obvious to anyone not directly involved in this argument, that neither you nor teejay is ever going to back down. That being the case, why ruin your friend's thread? If you feel you must win the argument (which neither of you will ever do--trust the Voice of Reason on this) why not take it to the adult/disagreement forum?
Sincerely,
The Voice of Reason

As tj has already brought out, for 3 posts, your ability to maneuver using bold and italics correctly within Simon's use of hotmail is remarkable.

Also interesting, you know what constitutes a typical JW.com mud-fest. - but don't complain because "it's these rows that have given me substance on this earthly plane."

Another interesting observation - you know there's an "adult/disagreemnt forum." Gee, half of us don't know that.

However, I am not a “newbie.” The Voice of Reason has been with man for eons:

It took me a minute to identify the parody.......you're using Wisdom Personified! I presume that you're basing that on the NWT? Very clever.

Be very careful, or I’ll have to introduce you to my big brother, the Voice of DOOM

Wisdom Personified was interpreted to be Jesus (in heaven). Then his "big brother - the Voice of DOOM - could be interpreted as the JW God, Jehovah?

Gotcha.........and whoever you are - you're no newbie 'round jw.com. But entertaining, nonetheless.

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How the JWs helped me

by larc in

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all of us have had negative experiences as a result of leaving the witnesses, some much worse than others.

many here, have expressed a bitterness and an anger over loosing so many "wasted" years.

while these are natural feelings, i think there are several positives we can dwell on as well.

waiting1

Hey Pro,

I have raised my kids to only associate with their intellectual equals even if they have to go outside the congregation to find friends.
As a reaction to the anti-science I have gone too far and tend to trust in scientism.
I have raised my kids to question every authority including "parental" authority.
I have worked hard with my kids to discover their abilities, aptitudes, temperament, vocational interests so that they can do the work they are sutited for.

Well, see there - good did come from it. You reached out to *better* the way you raised your children over the way you were raised. Now, you may have done that anyway - but most likely not in those specific areas.

I might rethink that one about questioning "parental authority" however. They do that naturally. Not only questioning, challenging, down right rebellion against! Teenagers............

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How the JWs helped me

by larc in

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friends

all of us have had negative experiences as a result of leaving the witnesses, some much worse than others.

many here, have expressed a bitterness and an anger over loosing so many "wasted" years.

while these are natural feelings, i think there are several positives we can dwell on as well.

waiting1

Aw.......come on, even in a funny way - there are good things. We've had a thread like this before and the one response that I remember was:

"In college, I can sit through the most dull lecture and stay awake, even look like I'm taking notes while actually dozing."

I can identify.

Good things? My second husband (20 yrs now.)

Stability - and I had a lousy upbringing, and I needed that stability, one way or another, to survive.

The ability to talk to strangers and overcome their shyness - and mine. I had incredibly shy years in my life. No, damn it, I did. It all depended on where my brain/memory was residing. Wretched, in fact, those years. Ever try to hide huge red marks on your neck from nerves while trying to talk? Stomach muscles doubled up in spasms? Voice quivering so much can't be understood? Gasping for air? Ain't easy.

The ability to pick something apart.

The ability to speak up to those in obviously higher authority than ourselves.

Some good friendships along the way. Three fine children.

Maybe I would have had this anyway? No, I don't think so. You see, with my background with my father, I think I would have gone either into the Viet Nam era of military (probably nurse) or to live with my aunt & attend university where she taught. She was rabid and radical, and I probably would have followed her lead. Either way, I think my mind would have flipped - and not for the good.

Would I live this way again - by choice? No. But who has choices in the present that they totally comprehend?

Thanks, Larc - good topic.

waiting