tec:
Yes, but most people don't even have a little bit of faith.
Nice.
peace!.
you have stated (and others have agreed and stated the same) that faith is not based on evidence, or it is not faith to begin with.
may i ask you, then, if you think the apostles and early disciples, who walked with christ, had faith?
tec:
Yes, but most people don't even have a little bit of faith.
Nice.
peace!.
you have stated (and others have agreed and stated the same) that faith is not based on evidence, or it is not faith to begin with.
may i ask you, then, if you think the apostles and early disciples, who walked with christ, had faith?
Pure arrogance.
"Jesus talks to me, therefore I am special."
"Oh, you prayed for help and Jesus didn't help you? There must be something wrong wtih you, because LOOK! He helps me and talks to me all the time!"
Ridiculous.
i think this is great news!.
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http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/aawa-and-snap-plan-to-cooperate .
You have literally walk on the Ex-JW scene within the last 2 years and think you are something special, Why? Because you have created a very boring blog and recorded some JC's. Whoopeee doo.
I saw a picture of Ray P. and he's quite handsome, so I'm willing to forgive all that for now.
i know atlatis will bring this letter to the forum.
i just wanted to paste it here and bold the most hilarious, weird thing fro the letter.
the bold part that i added made me lol.. .
Stairs can be very confusing and intimidating. Thank Jehovah for the kind direction on how to use them, when in a crowd.
http://gilmermirror.com/bookmark/23272594/article-extreme%20shunning#.ufwjurllscm.facebook.
extreme shunningthe gilmer mirror.
its time to outlaw extreme shunning in modern society by: richard e. kelly .
Oh, yay.
JWGoneBad speaks with the dead. And can discern from a couple of random internet posts what a person would or would not have agreed to, if he were still alive.
http://gilmermirror.com/bookmark/23272594/article-extreme%20shunning#.ufwjurllscm.facebook.
extreme shunningthe gilmer mirror.
its time to outlaw extreme shunning in modern society by: richard e. kelly .
Not impressed with Richard Kelly's ethics as a "writer".
It would have been very easy for him to interview some friends and/or family of Eric's. And then write an article that would have at least been honest, and had just as much impact, even if he had been asked to use a pseudonym.
Instead, he took the lazy route, clicked on a couple of threads from JWN, jumped to a conclusion and quote-mined what suited himself and his group's agenda, and dashed off to the printer.
Not very professional.
http://gilmermirror.com/bookmark/23272594/article-extreme%20shunning#.ufwjurllscm.facebook.
extreme shunningthe gilmer mirror.
its time to outlaw extreme shunning in modern society by: richard e. kelly .
Simon:
I am a little disgusted though that the author is using someone's death to push an agenda and get publicity. It's also more than a little disingenuous to write about the harm and danger that shunning can cause (to the point of suicide) when his own organization has been so careless and cavalier with people's identities that it has put people at risk of being shunned and still does not have clear policies for protection.
http://gilmermirror.com/bookmark/23272594/article-extreme%20shunning#.ufwjurllscm.facebook.
extreme shunningthe gilmer mirror.
its time to outlaw extreme shunning in modern society by: richard e. kelly .
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
http://gilmermirror.com/bookmark/23272594/article-extreme%20shunning#.ufwjurllscm.facebook.
extreme shunningthe gilmer mirror.
its time to outlaw extreme shunning in modern society by: richard e. kelly .
The article by Dick Kelley disturbs me for a number of reasons. The first is that he wrote about Eric as if he personally knew him. I don't know for sure, but I don't think they knew each other in real life. If someone would have information corroborating that they did know each other, I would be more than happy to retract that statement.
I also am bothered by the fact that Dick culled from Eric's posts here to find a vehicle for AAWA to use when discussing how bad disfellowshipping is, and the associated shunning. I know of another person that this AAWA outed, and then wanted to exploit for this same purpose. At least Eric is no longer with us, and cannot personally be hurt. I just worry about others that can be outed that were associated with Eric in real life, due to some of his past indiscreet posting.
zed
I am so glad someone finally addressed this! Thank you, Zed and Mamochan!
I was also very disturbed to see Eric's quotes in that article and wondered whether permission was given for them to be used. AAWA may argue that they didn't need permission, that they are in the public domain, but certainly ethics, morals and common sense should come into play - law or not.
My understanding from a close freind of Eric's was that while being shunned was distressing to Eric, as it is to all of us, that was not his only issue. And that's where the article is misleading. Also, I believe neither Richard Kelly nor Steven Unthank, who deceptively refers to Eric as his "freind" in the comments section of the article ever met or conversed with Eric. If they wanted to use Eric's example, they should have used a pseudonym, unless they had permission.
I had concerns about this same issue when AAWA went public with statements saying that Paris Jackson's suicide attempt was directly related to her being raised a Witness. No proof of this claim was offered and apparently, none required for the foaming-at-the-mouth supporters of AAWA.
To me this is just another example of AAWA's long-standing tradition of lack of respect for the personal privacy and concerns of the people they claim to serve. We are all nothing to them but warm bodies useful as collateral damage, if it serves their agenda.
it was six hours long.
at the beginning of the week i had four accusers and by the time i went (half way throught the week) i was up to twelve.
i was charged with apostasy, malicous slander, lying, revileing.
I called the co and gave him a transcript of the jc hearing. He read it and called the next day to say they had twenty-five accusers. I said how do you go from the beginning of the week with only four, half way through the week up to twelve and then when I wanted to appeal it, it was finally up to twenty-five accusers and where were the other thirteen accusers that were not mentioned during my hearing.
Where do you live? Salem?