Posts by Acts5v29

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

Acts5v29

Good evening scared and lonely,

Firstly accept my sincere concern and best wishes for you in the brave and difficult decision you have taken.

Speaking with people here, you're likely feeling a separation between the brothers whom you are afraid will reject you, and the people here who are empathetic - the two just don't mix do they, so it will take a deep breath before you leave. It is all too easy to leave with anger or a rejection of the Bible, much harder to leave with your own character intact - but you can do it. When we feel the normality, we realise it is different from what we're used to - so different that, we imagine, the warnings that it is wrong resonate feverishly - but don't worry: you've found clear air to breathe.

Advice? talk to people here who you feel comfortable with - they'll feel simply grateful to talk to you! - and let that normality feel safe rather than something to fear. If you still believe in God and see Him as separate from the watchtower - if you still have the heart for Him - don't be afraid to talk to Him; love of God is more than just beliefs.

sincerely,

Acts5v29

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Acts5v29

Good evening Outlaw,

I too can think of and personally know gay people who are far more decent than others who are religious - both gays, and atheists, and quite angry people who are only really angry because they are damaged rather than nasty.

If I might say: you know that religions preach something very different to what our ministry declares and purport to speak on everything - but our ministry just knows about the context surrounding- and the end of- this era, while the reason and purpose for Armageddon is clear simply by removing religions' distortions. Since the ministry is not a religion - more a preaching of a specific message, just as John the Baptist has a specific message - so I would not know how to answer your question of 'ALL PEOPLE' outside of what I've already said: everyone survives God's intervention, and only the rebellious fighters against Christ are killed at Armageddon.

That said: the God I worship sees sincerity and heart - not beliefs, not church membership - also circumstances, and historical damage against us - and life is not about rules, but living. Whatever our foibles (and I have had plenty) I have found there is something better which makes them not really important - or rather, not an issue anymore. If God can do that in people, then everyone has the potential to live very happily without feeling deprived or restrained.

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Does the WT attract needy dysfunctional type of people?

by William Penwell in

in your personal experience, do you think that the wt attracts needy types of people?

over the years, my experience is that they do attract very needy, insecure, dysfunctional, types.

i had an acquaintance that i just basically cut off.

Acts5v29

There is a way forward - show them that God is not judgemental, that He is not expecting us to find truth amongst a Babel of religions, that there is no finishing line to cross - in other words, show that He is not threatening.

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Christadelphian

by Billy1000 in

my name is stephen and i am new to the forum.

i am a christadelphian and through my discussions with fellow members of my ecclesia it has inspired me to reach out to other religions to find out exactly what others believe to enhance my own faith and further bring me closer to our heavenly father.

in no way do i mean disrespect if it has been caused.

Acts5v29

I think there will be cherry-picking until we give loyalty to God rather than to our church or to our own beliefs. We have to be willing to admit we don't know, or that we are wrong on something - then our recommendation can be for individual cherries rather than the baskets which harbour them.

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Bets on when the UN prophecy will be dropped?

by marmot in

now that i'm free to bet, i figured it would be neat to start a pool on when the watchtower is going to change light bulbs on the prophecy about the united nations turning on worldwide religion.

there is no doubt in my mind that this prediction will be dropped.

not only is this the longest-running unchanged prediction in the wt's history (1925 and 1975 had much shorter gestations) it's the last detailed concrete prediction the society has left in its bag of tricks.

Acts5v29

Any group which uses fear to make people believe something has no allegiance with God

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Bets on when the UN prophecy will be dropped?

by marmot in

now that i'm free to bet, i figured it would be neat to start a pool on when the watchtower is going to change light bulbs on the prophecy about the united nations turning on worldwide religion.

there is no doubt in my mind that this prediction will be dropped.

not only is this the longest-running unchanged prediction in the wt's history (1925 and 1975 had much shorter gestations) it's the last detailed concrete prediction the society has left in its bag of tricks.

Acts5v29

That's a problem when declaring that Revelation is going on as we speak - the tendency to shoe-horn in whatever they see around them. Trouble is, it maligns those it accuses, often for no reason. The watchtower view on Revelation is fundamentally flawed, not just wrt the UN

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Christadelphian

by Billy1000 in

my name is stephen and i am new to the forum.

i am a christadelphian and through my discussions with fellow members of my ecclesia it has inspired me to reach out to other religions to find out exactly what others believe to enhance my own faith and further bring me closer to our heavenly father.

in no way do i mean disrespect if it has been caused.

Acts5v29

Congratulations Anders for letting your heart breathe!

sincerely,

Acts5v29

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Acts5v29

Good afternoon TTWSHF

Revelation 16 tells of the kings of the earth being assembled for the great day, to the place called Har-Mageddon. The actual battle is recorded in 17:14 where they fight the Christ, but because he is in overall authority in the earth he will defeat them. The slaughter is not just because the Heavens want to slaughter someone, but to overcome an active and determined rebellion - not doubters.

This is getting away from my ministry, which does not teach, but I hope this is helpful.

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Acts5v29

Good afternoon outlaw,

I apologise for thinking you meant the time of God's intervention rather than the time for Armageddon - the watchtower sees them roughly as the same,so that's what I thought you meant. Anyway...

When YOUR "Time Line" arrives for Armageddon..And..
Non Believers don`t accept the Evidence Presented,of Gods Existence..
"Is Your God Going to Slaughter Them?"

The slaughter at Armageddon is for a specific purpose: to quell the attack against the Christ, not to slaughter those who do not believe in God. Unless you decide to engage in that fight, you can feel confident of surviving Armageddon.

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Armageddon is to remove those who are actually fighting against the Christ, not those who do not

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Acts5v29

Good morning Outlaw,

What happens to the people who are not satisfied with the Evidence Presented that God Exists,when YOUR "Time Line" is met?..
What happens to the "Non Believers"?

When those in authority call to God for help over the consequences of the climate crisis, He will respond to abate it. That healing of what has been a potential nemesis will be impressive to everyone - and if that does not convince people, then it is likely that nothing will.

There are and always have been non-believers and non-believers - the latter simply will not "believe" because they don't want to be, as they see it, beholden to a superior authority in the Heavens. The former are sincere in their non-belief. Sincerity is the key.

When God intervenes, all non-believers will remain alive - God will not destroy at the hour of His demonstrating His benevolence to us. As for those who die at Armageddon, it is their unbreakable belligerent attitude which prompts them to fight against the Christ - many will be believers, but just want to be independent anyway.

Attitude is everything. It may seem like a strength, but in truth it just telegraphs weakness.