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  Do you still believe in God?

  by FormerlySandL in

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  i never thought i would admit it, but i don't.

  i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.

  as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.

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  nicolaou,

  evil-twisted mentality.

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  Do you still believe in God?

  by FormerlySandL in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i never thought i would admit it, but i don't.

  i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.

  as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.

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  nicolaou et al,

  I'm sure you can see the point and the issue really. If we understand it, then we don't feel torn to pieces when we see evil in the world, but if you really want an excuse to cast aspersions at God, you can reason as you are doing.

  Nevertheless, when the climate crisis causes such disruption that we cannot cope, we will try every avenue in order to live - and the last one will be to call to God for help, as everyone does at some time. That time, when our entire race is threatened and the entire world's authorities call for help, that is when the issue of "Man cannot survive alone" will have been proved, and God's intervention will prove the second part - that God can make that survival happen.

  So please if you wish: enjoy your mud-slinging - all it costs you is peace of mind and your willingness to reason.
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  Do you still believe in God?

  by FormerlySandL in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i never thought i would admit it, but i don't.

  i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.

  as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.

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  Hello jookbeard,

  I'm sure some of the Hebrews said the same during their 400 years in Egypt, but the issue is the issue.
  
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  Do you still believe in God?

  by FormerlySandL in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i never thought i would admit it, but i don't.

  i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.

  as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.

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  Hi nicolaou,

  Context is everything. You don't operate on a broken pelvis of someone who would not survive the anaesthetic, you don't insult a man who's holding a knife to your child's throat, you don't break a rule to win a game.

  Though omnipotent, God's actions are within a context - that of the theme of the Bible, which roughly states:

  "Man cannot survive without God's help"

  - that is what lies behind Man's going independent from God.

  God could have simply wiped the early ones out and started again - but that would not have proved His contention, which was goaded by the adversary. So Man became independent, and that issue has to prove itself - God's intervention would only violate the terms. God cannot intervene until Mankind learns that it cannot survive on its own, and actually calls to Him for help - but although close, and closing, we have not yet reached that stage.

  Were God to intervene in a small way - heal a famine, abate a war, remove some dictator - we would rely on it and never actually learn, and God would become a kind of on-call fixer rather than the Father He should be. Besides that, were he to intervene, then one religion / race / nation / side would claim they had received his blessing, and other sides would only fight to avoid looking small.

  So until Mankind calls for help, the famines and tortures and slaughters and evil will go unabated - and we are not yet ready to make the call!

  More importantly... if God were to intervene, then the adversary could claim legitimately that God broke the rules in order to win, and taint Him as ruling by cheating. Again, He could just kill the adversary, but what would that prove to the rest of creation? Any intervention will mean that we never have God as our Father - that is what's at stake; we will just have independence which we are too short-sighted to handle properly, more torture, more killings, more mess... with absolutely no prospect of things being better. Omnipotent yes, but there is a knife to our throat, and God will not put us at risk.

  If you want to know hen we will call - it is the theme of the Bible and has nothing to do with religion or belief, easy to understand by believers and non-believers, and I can point you to it.

  sincerely,

  Acts5v29
  
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  Narcissistic personality disorder and the dubs

  by purrpurr in

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  i've recently started to research npd.

  having identified several of my family members as having it ( no wonder we're such a ¿***#@**!!!!

  up family)there's huge similarities between the borg and individual members of the cong as well i've noticed.the over whelming love of self, the need to believe in a grandiose fictional version of themselves, always striving for more power and wealth, being unable to stand any criticism, and then there's the manipulation of the victims too.i could be wrong i guess but what thoughts do you guys have about it?

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  Good morning Xanthippe,

  Whatever the label, if someone is bad for you and it is possible to keep away from them - keep away from them. This sounds a little like the shunning of religions, but yours will be based on evidence, rather than orders - and a diagnosis is not needed to separate from people who behave badly.

  best wishes
  
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

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  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Good morning DataDog,

  I have some questions for Acts.

  Why would God permit wickedness ( which isn't any better than causing it ) throw us in a meat-grinder, and then kill us for being imperfect and acting out in the meat-grinder world, which he permitted to exist? Even an imperfect human would step in to help someone. What the hell is GOD doing, in your opinion?

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  What do you think about XIANS who are compelled to start partaking, against Watchtower orders?? Are they Nutters??

  On the partaking, that's pretty simple: the watchtower have effectively commandeered the whole process, so that even those who take the bread and wine must do so in the hall (or if they cannot make it, in some other official way) - thus only the watchtower people can go to heaven (!) The fact that they have held it for many many years on the wrong evening does not seem to bother them (!) - so it makes sense not to give too much credence to their process.

  If you feel moved to take the bread and wine, as I do, then do so.

  As for why God allows wickedness, you've hit the nail on the head: a human wouldn't allow it, so... why does He?

  It's bound up in the theme of the Bible - once understood, then its clear why the omnipotent God is hindered in intervening, and why His intervention will come according to the ministry I've mentioned. I've tried to explain it on this thread before, but was met with "how should you know?" posts, but the text "Divine Rescue from Mankind's FInal Crisis" explains it, if you want to download it. You can PM me, if you want to discuss it privately, but I assure you it will take away the horrible feelings over what you see going on unabated in the world.

  sincerely,

  Acts5v29
  
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Good morning OrphanCrow,

  Acts: To be honest, I am not permitted to teach

  Ah!!

  You must be a woman.

  "Not permitted", huh? Who is stopping you?

  The Holy Spirit does not permit me to teach.

  The ministry I have is that of a messenger - focused, like John the Baptist or Moses - not debating deep scriptural things, but giving a simple message which was essential. So simple that anyone can do it - trinitarians, non-believers, watchtower, whoever - regardless of their beliefs, but teachings and debates would only encourage the USPs which make religions seem special.
  

  I stress that I love the scriptures and have loved teaching. I find truly beautiful things in there which are easy to miss - things which paint the context and landscape around the well-known events - but sadly I cannot teach them. I can mentor others in the ministry re: things pertinent to it, and those who are comfortable in the ministry I can teach some things, but I must be careful not to make my own enthusiasm dominate over something better.
  
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Good morning Outlaw,

  If God wanted to take over by force, He could have done that at any time in history - but that is not His way. Who, therefore, will threaten whom? There is your answer, but are you really happy with it?.....Acts5v29

  Of course I`m happy with it..LOL!!..

  I wasn`t trying to "Bait" you,so I could Spin your Answer....I honestly wanted to know..

  There's a thread started on NPD, and I mentioned "paranoia" in a post to you - but to clear things up I know you are neither of these things, even there are some on the board who are one or the other.

  best wishes,

  Acts5v29
  
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  Narcissistic personality disorder and the dubs

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've recently started to research npd.

  having identified several of my family members as having it ( no wonder we're such a ¿***#@**!!!!

  up family)there's huge similarities between the borg and individual members of the cong as well i've noticed.the over whelming love of self, the need to believe in a grandiose fictional version of themselves, always striving for more power and wealth, being unable to stand any criticism, and then there's the manipulation of the victims too.i could be wrong i guess but what thoughts do you guys have about it?

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  Good morning slimboy,

  I am skeptical about such classifications. There was a discussion about removing it from the clinical list of psychological disorders. The problem is the tendency to label anyone who is mean or treats you badly as a narcissist. That may feel empowering but is there a clinical basis?

  I understand your skepticism. The problem with NPD (as opposed to narcissistic behaviour or "mean-ness") is that it is not debilitating to the host - it is a horribly skewed outlook with which one casually ruins others. Also, there is no adequate treatment - certainly no treatment to remove it from the psychology of the host.
  
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  Do you still believe in God?

  by FormerlySandL in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i never thought i would admit it, but i don't.

  i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.

  as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.

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  Good morning Formerly,

  If you sincerely do not believe, then that is your belief - but if your disbelief is due to your experience with the watchtower and world events, I would ask you - please - to take a moment before your statement becomes entrenched defensivism.

  I can show you why God does not - and cannot - intervene in badness. Would that make a difference to you? If so, you have my PMs - just contact me.

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