I think it also turns some insecure people into self-righteous, aggressive ones - as if they have sensed a door out of their insecurity into power. In all honest, I think insecurity is preferable to that - its hard to like someone who has turned themselves into a judgemental mouthpiece.
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Does the WT attract needy dysfunctional type of people?
by William Penwell inin your personal experience, do you think that the wt attracts needy types of people?
over the years, my experience is that they do attract very needy, insecure, dysfunctional, types.
i had an acquaintance that i just basically cut off.
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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Good afternoon LoveUniHateExams,
Thanks for your reply but I feel you're trying to dodge the gist of my question.
It only seems like that when my answers are not comprehensive, but no - I won't do that to you. If your questions are relevant to what I do, I'll answer.
Now, another question which becomes evident is this: what about the irreligious, the gay couples, the evolutionists, the atheists at that future point. They're not warring with Christ or anyone else. Will they be slaughtered at that time?
Honestly? My ministry does not address that - Armageddon will come sometime after God's rescue, but it will be a rebellion against authority, and those in that particular rebellion alone will be slaughtered as a matter of necessity - that's all I know. I could hypothesise - you know:
"why would gays not just live as they do"?,
"why would there be atheists after everyone will have seen God intervene?"
- and why would any of those want to rebel against authority! but all I know is what I've told you.
But I do believe that God's intervention - and the evident proof of His existence and His benevolence at that time - will change a lot in people. Theory of evolution will still be scientific, but God's appearance would not make it an atheistic issue anymore; and as much as sex is great - I'm told - there are things which can be far more meaningful, and which let our love for others be amplified rather than being hindered - just different, but immensely beautiful.
Could I add a post-script:
I know the ministry I've described seems suspect to some - the watchtower has made many people reject God as well as the church - and any mention of God sounds like it must have ties and caveats and catches... but this doesn't. It's just something very simple with no person or church as its owner - anyone can have it quite separately from worshipJehovah.org.
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Need to vent: My loathing for the JW cult increases more and more, while my wife clings more and more to it
by goingthruthemotions injust as i think my loathing for the jw cult has peaked, it goes higher and higher.
i wish this cult would just go away.
i wish my wife would just wake up.
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Mad Irishman,
If more people were kinder here they would try to have an intervention for those stuck in the cycle of this sort of thinking.
good point - sometimes the protective revulsion becomes a problem of its own
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Does the WT attract needy dysfunctional type of people?
by William Penwell inin your personal experience, do you think that the wt attracts needy types of people?
over the years, my experience is that they do attract very needy, insecure, dysfunctional, types.
i had an acquaintance that i just basically cut off.
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Certainly I was when I joined, in many ways. I had a love for God and felt it was incomplete, but sure - I was very insecure, and quite easily frightened.
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Christadelphian
by Billy1000 inmy name is stephen and i am new to the forum.
i am a christadelphian and through my discussions with fellow members of my ecclesia it has inspired me to reach out to other religions to find out exactly what others believe to enhance my own faith and further bring me closer to our heavenly father.
in no way do i mean disrespect if it has been caused.
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Bonsai,
Of course I will recommend what I have found to be useful - don't we all - but as a removal of fear with no strings attached. Do not confuse it with the manner of fear-inducing religions.
I doubt your "friends in heaven" have any room for a racist (insert colorful word here) like you.
That slander should be beneath you - I an not racist.
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Christadelphian
by Billy1000 inmy name is stephen and i am new to the forum.
i am a christadelphian and through my discussions with fellow members of my ecclesia it has inspired me to reach out to other religions to find out exactly what others believe to enhance my own faith and further bring me closer to our heavenly father.
in no way do i mean disrespect if it has been caused.
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Good afternoon Billy,
By the way, I'm not really trying to start a new religion, nor to explain Revelation (Chinese whispers)
It was once believed that when a person is part of the "right" religion you get a free pass to whatever blessing you believe to be coming
I do not think this way, more Christ says three things to get eternal life.
Love thy God
Love Thy neighbour as thyself
Repent and be baptised
I believe whatever the religion if you do these things you will be given the blessings through the grace and mercy of God
I think where I differ from you is in the view of what the issue is. Many religions say they can help us get personal salvation, but I believe the issue is far greater than that. As for our ultimate salvation, I think we're in good hands if we trust our Friends in the Heavens.
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Christadelphian
by Billy1000 inmy name is stephen and i am new to the forum.
i am a christadelphian and through my discussions with fellow members of my ecclesia it has inspired me to reach out to other religions to find out exactly what others believe to enhance my own faith and further bring me closer to our heavenly father.
in no way do i mean disrespect if it has been caused.
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Good morning Billy,
No offence taken on my part - it's good to hear talk of the scriptures.
Sadly I am not part of any religion, so I can't answer you. My own ministry - should it be a consideration for your journey - is rather simpler than yours and can be found at www.worshipJehovah.org (not associated with any religion)
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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Datadog...
What is the alternative to JWism? Searching on your own, without anyone telling you what to believe.
I couldn't agree more!
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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Good morning Vanderhoven7,
Armageddon is history. There is no future battle of Armageddon.
I know some people have that view - and it is one way of countering the Pentecostalists and the watchtower - but a little examination of Revelation shows that the earthly events of the vision have not yet begun.
The 1st earthly event of the vision - that is the vision, not the letters to the congregations - is at Revelation 5:13:
13. And I heard every creature that is in heaven and on earth and beneath the earth and on the sea, and all the things in them, saying:
"To the One sitting on the throne and to the Lamb be the praise and the honour and the glory and the might forever and ever."
That unanimous show of praise has not yet happened - it would have been noted in countries all over the world as indisputable had it done so.There has to be a reason why everyone - believers, atheists, the good and the bad, the believers in Christ and those who do not - would all give their thanks to both him and to his Father... that reason is God's intervention to save everyone alive, when the world's auhorities call for help.You can find this in the "Divine Rescue" text at www.worshipJehovah.org/divineRescue - not associated with an religion. -
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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Good morning Love UniHateExams,
Agree with Outlaw here.
and everyone - good or bad, believing in the intervention or not - will be rescued alive at God's intervention
At that moment, will God destroy the irreligious, the openly gay couples, the scientists that openly advocate evolution, the people addicted to alcohol/drugs/pornography, the militant atheists, etc.?
Your move ...
No, He won't. They will not be destroyed just as they see proof of Him, and everyone will be free to follow the Christ's direction thereafter or not.
The intervention is a turning-point in authority in the earth, when we finally begin our recovery - but it does not begin with a mass slaughter of this group and that.
Revelation - whose vision's events have not yet begun - will have to take place, and the war against Christ's authority and the slaughter associated with that are many events in the future.