Posts by wasasister

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Protector of pedophiles

by Norm in

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jehovah, high protector and god of the pedophile.. in biblical days, when women and children, male children excepted of course, being considered little more than cattle and livestock, to have sex with children was just one additional privilege of the male.

you know, those who had the good fortune to be born with a penis.

in a society like that you had to be quick and start at an early age to be able to "scoop up" a virgin.

wasasister

Just one thing no one has mentioned yet. Farkel said:

Uh, why did it specifically mention that ONLY the girls who had not known the act of lying with a man could be spared?
Do virgins clean the house and cook better than non-virgins?

Could it be that they only took virgins because there would be NO possibility of them later giving birth to a Midianite child? I do think household servants would be common, and likely young females would be under the charge of the soldier's wife, if he had one (and it would be unusual for an adult male in that society to be unmarried.)

While I acknowledge that if the head of household wanted to use a slave for sexual purposes, they would be free to do so, I would agree with UR that this does not seem to be the main purpose for sparing the virgin females.

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What song do you want played at your funeral?

by ballistic in

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what song do you want playing at your funeral?.

i'll be having "going underground" by the jam.

i was too far out... and not waving but drowning - stevie smith

wasasister

I'm been thinking about Mozart's Requiem Mass. To me, it's the greatest celebration of life I have ever heard. Not sad as much as it is reverent. Parts of it sound like, "Gee, I'm glad it's not ME in that box. I think I'll go out after this deal and enjoy something fun."

I know it's sappy and religious, but I still love it. I won't hear it, of course, but maybe if anyone bothers to attend my wake, they could learn to appreciate Mozart.

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Thanks for the support love, Erica

by angel in

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i am erica garza rodriguez.

i wanted to write and thank all of you for your interest and support during this long pursuit of justice.. to those wonderful friends who were able to travel to ritzville for the trial, my heart overflows with humble gratitude.. bill bowen (and wife sheila, behind the scene).

b (you know who you are), pat, chris, richard and wife, gsark, baharama and sister, maximus, were you there?

wasasister

I've been out of town, and am just now catching up on the latest news. I followed you case closely, and although I was unable to make the trip to Ritzville, I was there with you in spirit.

Others have said this, but let me emphasize the importance of your courage. For every victim who speaks out, there are dozens - maybe hundreds - of others who cannot do so. Perhaps they lack the support or are not strong enough to face the ordeal of speaking of the most difficult period in their lives. The fact that you both came forward AND stuck it out to the rightful conclusion may give some other Silent Lamb the motivation and strength to do the same.

Now that you have seen justice done, may you continue to heal and grow, knowing in your heart that you may have helped people you will never meet just by your example.

I join in the applause,
Was

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Silentlambs In Action

by bajarama in

my sister and i just got back from ritzville.

i know i'll ever be the same after my experience there.

it made me feel good to hear the click of the handcuffs, and watch the officers remove him from the courtroom.. i want to say to erica, you and your family are heroes!

wasasister

Since my sis still will not post, let me say this on her behalf: She truly enjoyed the role she played in your visit. She and hubby cannot, for reasons I will not state here, be open in their support, but they do what they can.

For those of you who took time and effort to attend this trial, thank you. Each one of you represent many others who were not able to do so. I hope Erica and others like her know how much support they have among us.

I hope you had a safe journey home. I'll look forward to meeting you in person one day.

Was
Aside: she's a great cook, ain't she?

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Stones - or should I say, the lack of them.

by ChuckD in

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ever notice how the folks who are the most prone to lob an insult or accusation over the fence are also those who hide behind a closely guarded psudonym while online?

and, the majority of their barbs are aimed at those of us who are comfortable enough to be here as ourselves, using our real names.

i know that there are many folks who use psudonyms to protect their identity from those within the organization whould would rat them out to the brooklyn feds, but many others just like to hide behind a facade and shoot their slings and arrows from far offstage.

wasasister

Kismet:

He is the most likely candidate for the "most insulting, offensive,hate filled, self-righteous & judgemental" award.

Ditto that.

Sorry, was that insulting, or just factual?
was

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Stones - or should I say, the lack of them.

by ChuckD in

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ever notice how the folks who are the most prone to lob an insult or accusation over the fence are also those who hide behind a closely guarded psudonym while online?

and, the majority of their barbs are aimed at those of us who are comfortable enough to be here as ourselves, using our real names.

i know that there are many folks who use psudonyms to protect their identity from those within the organization whould would rat them out to the brooklyn feds, but many others just like to hide behind a facade and shoot their slings and arrows from far offstage.

wasasister

Chuck:
I admire your courage and agree with much of what you say. I don't use my real name (and in fact removed my image, even though it was centuries old), to protect two people: my Witness daughter, and my sister who is not yet ready to "come out."

Although I do not use my real name, I've been honest about where I live, the cirumstances of my departure from the Borg, my gender and marital status, and enough other details that if someone really wanted to know, they could discover me. However, I choose not to hurl insults about. Not for the reason you postulate however, but because it is not my nature to do so. I've had some fairly heated discussions with some posters here, yet I doubt anyone could accuse me of a direct insult. (Yes, I do make jokes that are less than complimentary, but none of them are truly mean-spirited.)

There's still plenty of glass in my house.

Good post, Chuck.

Was

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i gave my word

by teejay in

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ginny, you said, .

i understand the thinking, i guess, it's just that i was never (am not) that way.

if i am a laughingstock, it is only because i believed the way you presented yourself.

wasasister

Hi TeeJay: I'm up early, the birds are singing outside my window, the coffee is brewing. I'm not going to keep this thread going much longer, as it has gone on way longer than I ever intended. Lest you or anyone else feels this is me "running away" from an argument, I'm not. I'm going to the ocean for the day and have a nice picnic. I feel I've fairly and calmly addressed questions directed towards me and said about all I have to say on the subject. Further bantering is just going to result in redundancy. I think I have a much better idea about you now and I hope you can say the same of me.

You said:

What is it you are trying to accomplish in regard to Farkel?
If nothing else, learn from all his hard work in researching the Evil Empire, i.e. show common decency to fellow posters, like the rest of us do, and when he says something that hurts someone's feelings, that he not think he's so high and mighty, but apologize.

Does that mean you want to learn to show common decency to fellow posters? If so, why your rude (perhaps a better word than vitriolic) comments to Tina? In light of what I read, there will be no apology for placing you in the same catagory as Scorpion and Kimberly. The obscenities may be lacking, but mean is mean. Again, Tina may have provoked you, but if you return in kind you can't expect to remain innocent. This was the point Bigboi kept on about last night, ie:

Is it right to call one poster on improper conduct, yet ignore said conduct from posters that are your friends'?

I don't call your conduct towards Tina "proper", no matter what or how she spoke to you.

I also noticed in your response what seems to be a condradiction about the "Emmy Debacle" (oh, God, now I'm capitalizing it!) You congratulated AlanF and JanH for staying out of it in one breath, and then said:

You stayed out of it for a reason which is precisely why I got into it. Evil prospers when good people do nothing.

I don't get involved in street fights. My "fight" if you will takes place on a different field. I do plenty in my own way, but when mud is slinging and insults are flying, there is little I can accomplish other than get muddy. I AM good people and I DO get involved, just not the same way you do.

"As far as I am able to determine", means I read all the posts, but I can't be precise as to the motives behind what everyone said, thus the qualifier.

"Peace, I guess" has to do with the perception on my part that you rather enjoy a good fight. Therefore, I would not wish you peace if you don't want any.

I'm going to put the beach chairs in the car now and see if I can find a corkscrew. I've already expended way more time and energy here than I ever intended to. Unless there is something substantive to add, I won't be back.

Peace if you want it,
Was

PS: the last decent movie I saw this summer was Memento, a psychological thriller with many interesting twists. I highly recommend it.

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i gave my word

by teejay in

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ginny, you said, .

i understand the thinking, i guess, it's just that i was never (am not) that way.

if i am a laughingstock, it is only because i believed the way you presented yourself.

wasasister

Is it right to call one poster on improper conduct, yet ignore said conduct from posters that are your friends'?

No, with a qualifier: with my friends I might have a better perception of their history, motivations, and general character. In the dispute - for lack of a better term - between Teejay and Farkel there was plenty of ugliness going back and forth. The only (slight) difference I noticed was the seeming obsession of Teejay keeping it going. Would it have killed the guy to just let this die? I am not the only party to have made this observation.

Look, Big, I have no agenda with either you or Teejay. I stepped up to the plate because I saw Ginny being called to task over a joke and I knew she wasn't around to reply personally.

Max, darling, what is the Latin for: Live and Learn, Sister!

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i gave my word

by teejay in

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ginny, you said, .

i understand the thinking, i guess, it's just that i was never (am not) that way.

if i am a laughingstock, it is only because i believed the way you presented yourself.

wasasister

Say what I will? Consider it done.

Let's not play counting games. (Third sentence in second paragraph, what? It's late and I probably have a mild case of heat stroke. I live in the Pacific Northwest and the temp broke 80 degrees this afternoon. That's like, really, really hot for us. Birds spontaneously combusted in mid-air.) Quote the sentence to which you refer, and I'll comment. If I have thoughts about what Kent wrote to you, I'll address them to him directly. Might just do that. Ya never know.

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i gave my word

by teejay in

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ginny, you said, .

i understand the thinking, i guess, it's just that i was never (am not) that way.

if i am a laughingstock, it is only because i believed the way you presented yourself.

wasasister

OK, Big, I'll bite. Please be specific. Which sentence exactly are you asking me to comment upon?

I see little difference between suggesting Kent is in a mental institution and suggesting he should be in one. This fine line somehow escapes me; would you care to elusidate? What possible difference does it make what Kent posted to you? We're talking about your reaction now.

Although you have already labled me as biased, I am attempting to remain open.