hey, crazy idea from chat.....doesn't a trip to vegas in say january sound great?.
apost-o-fest 2002 vegas style .
so whatcha think?
Hi sister! I'll be in Vegas all weekend. Want me to scout locations?
It's cheap there now; seems tourists and gamblers alike are afraid to venture beyond the front porch. Hey! Here's an idea!! If people don't go to Vegas to gamble, that will piss off the Mafia. The Mafia, in turn may go after the terrorists. Now, THERE'S a threat!
Anyway, wish me luck.
Wasa
i have not followed very many threads of late, so if someone has already made the same observations i'm about to make, i apologize for my redundancy.. .
i admit it: i'm part of a highly secretive, highly elite group.
(we have to drink two quarts of fresh yak blood and get a tattoo of a pentagram on our butts as part of of the initiation.
Farkel: I'm still your friend. I have no idea what this is about, but that's were it is. Can I send cookies yet?
Unc: do you owe me an e-mail or what?
TJ: do not speak for anyone other than yourself.
having grown up in a jw household, celebrating holidays was always a problem.
my mother is catholic, so we tried to celebrate, but somehow the jws always had something bad to say, or they went to another part of the house.
a christmas tree was a symbol of satan.
What JW's fail to understand about the holidays is the need for families to have traditions. In fact, the very idea of "traditions" is demonized by JW's.
Not all families have fallen vicitim to crass commercialism and over-indulgence during the holidays. For many, they are times when families can gather together and enjoy the handing down of traditions from one generation to the next; whether it be mom's stuffing recipe, or auntie's stories of growing up. The idea of putting up lights and celebrating during the darkest time of the year (in the northern hemisphere, at least) seems like a fine idea to me. I don't care to involve anyone's birthday.
Growing up as a JW, I missed these occasions of family tradition. The closest we came was the annual summer trek to the District Convention.
Proplog's negative remarks will not dissuade me from starting my own traditions. Light up the house, cook, laugh, play music....you're all invited.
i've seen loads of live acts, back when i was a "young person asking" i watched the crystals, heinz, johnny kid and the pirates, brenda lee, joe brown and others all on one show.
so very innocent!.
come my eventual departure from dubdom, i resolved to see all these bad people playing their music live.
Some performers shine on stage, even though they are not as impressive in the studio. Live favorites:
Billy Joel - great keyboardist and wonderful with an audience.
Tracy Chapman - live, outdoor summer concert, she really connected
Itzhak Pearlman - loves to shmooze with the audience, funny guy
Joe Satriani - not much of a talker, but plays great guitar
and my most pleasant surprize: Barry Manilow. I know, I know...I had to be dragged to the concert by a rabid fan; but once there, he really put on a show and travels with an excellent orchestra. He knows he's a chilche and plays it up.
By the way, I'm heading for Vegas next week. Any suggestions?
there is a lot of ignorant afghan bashing going on here at the moment (as opposed to informed afghan bashing) and when we read the papers and see the television pictures it's little wonder why.
the world news media is on a feeding frenzy whipping up so called 'anti-terrorist'* retoric to silly levels.
(*one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter .. nelson mandela?
My questions about military strategy were sincere. I honesly don't know what is the best action to take, yet I am glad there are those who do. Does that make me a coward, since I have no stomach for killing?
I hope one thing the west will learn from this is the immportance of building trust and good relations with people of as many nations as posible while never letting down it's guard.
Tina: Lady, I miss you already! I'll never look at a plate of pasta without wishing you were there to share it with me. You're a treasure!
there is a lot of ignorant afghan bashing going on here at the moment (as opposed to informed afghan bashing) and when we read the papers and see the television pictures it's little wonder why.
the world news media is on a feeding frenzy whipping up so called 'anti-terrorist'* retoric to silly levels.
(*one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter .. nelson mandela?
I must agree with Unc here. Most Americans cannot distinguish between the Afghan "everyman" and their government. Unfortunately, neither can bombs.
Lining each and every evil terrorist up against the wall resonates with me as well, but they are not exactly easy to find. It's not as if they wear different colored outfits, like the "bad guys" in a US Western movie. In order to get those responsible for cowardly murderous acts lined up against that wall, someone has to go to the place they are hiding and get them out. It does not make sense to send ground troups into a hostile territory unless air response capabilities have been disabled first. Among the things I am ingorant of: military strategy. Is there another way to accomplish this lineup? If so, what is it?
Americans, as well as most of the informed world, were outraged and angry at the actions on Sept. 11. Yes, there were many knee-jerk reactions, but in fact the US response waited for several weeks. During that time, at least a token effort was made to get the Taliban to turn over Bin Laden and his cohorts. In some ways, I think that showed remarkable restraint. Americans have a very short attention span and tend to want quick solutions (due to our fascination with television shows and video games.) In this war, the solution will not come quickly.
My Dear rational and passionate Uncle, if we put you in charge of the US response (and currently I'm all for that idea), what would you do? How would you find the terrorist cells and those who support them? Once we find them, I'll help you reload.
Wasa
PS: maybe Buddha should bless America, too. God seems to have taken a vacation.
my name is kevin and i am jon's partner.
jon gave me his password a few weeks ago and asked me to post to the board if something happened to him.
as some of you know jon had been undergoing cancer treatment since the end of july.
I don't post much anymore, but I am compelled to add my condolences to the rest. Jonjon helped me at a time when I was down, and I'll never forget his kindness. Thank you, Kevin, for sharing his time with us, and for being thoughtful enough to inform us of his passing.
Warmest thoughts and sympathy for your loss.
Wasasister
wow!
someone (ranchett's husband) actually knows her well enough to talk to her directly?
awesome.
I only heard the last half-hour, but what I did hear was remarkable! Kudos to Bill who managed the delicate balance between righteous outrage and precise delivery of facts without too much emotion. I also admire the interviewer (Meria has a charming accent), who mangaged to ask the right questions and emphasise important points without drowning out Bill. Her restraint makes her a wonderful hostess. She is obviously supportive of the "cause".
Congrats to all involved.
god bless america!.
this saying has annoyed the crap outta me for years with it's jingoistic myopia and presumptious aire.
(it presumes too much about god, extolling america's apparent inate goodness.
Uncle, with blokes like you in our corner, we can't loose.
I've always had trouble with that expression, too. Even upon my departure from the Borg, I had trouble dealing with my newfound patriotism. Like one of my dear friends has said, I consider myself a citizen of the world. I became an American by an accident of birth. However, I remain one out of choice.
Yes, our leaders are just as corrupt and inept as any in the world (and if you want to argue that point, we will be here all night), but the American people - by and large - are generous, warm-hearted, loyal, and hard working. I still think this is a fine place to live and the lyrics of the song put it beautifully.
Whether God blesses it or not (didn't look like it from where I sat on Sept. 11), we seem to have found out who our friends are.
Thanks, UB. With friends like you, our enemies should be nervous.
(Miss ya!)
i think we should all objurgate those who boast about donating to the sep 11th fund, red cross, or any other loser fund.. that dumb ass mayor giuliani is the worst thing that could happen to ny, he absolutely fettered the rescue work to a grinding halt.
the hard working, almost indefatigable rescue workers could have accomplished something with the billions of pounds of rubble, if only that asshole epicene giuliani knew what he was doing, and was capable of coordinating and directing a massive rescue mission.. all the dollars you are pulling out of your pockets are now wasted because of that ass.
there are no survivors left (because of that ass).
Seeker:
I'm surprised at you. You forgot already?
He is here to expose dogmatism.
Isn't that clear from his post?
