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  On being constantly scrutinized by the invisble world of gods and demons

  by Terry in

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  2. beliefs

  a religious person carries with them a concern (reasonably should be concerned) that non-believers do not share.. for the religious believer there is a very real dimension of beings who are actively invasive in human affairs.. these beings are angels, demons, jinns, gods, spirits, ghosts---you name it--scrutinizing our every move, reading our minds (some say) and.

  greatly aroused by women in a sexual way!.

  indeed, the scriptures do not blush to inform us that angels lusted after women in times past and impregnated them successfully!.

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  villagegirl

  Some explanations offered by various philosophies:

  (1) God and you are the same.

  (2) Our goal is to reunite to the Godhead.

  (3) God is an observer and the first cause, but does not intervene.

  (4) God does intervene but in no predictable pattern. (Jewish )

  (5) We are all one, as Jesus said; "I am in you and you are in me and we are one."

  (6) All control is an illusion ( Budhist )

  (7) All suffering is an illusion ( Christian Science )

  (8) Death is the same as life ( Hindu )

  (9) You exist in various dimensions simultaneously ( String Theory )

  (10) Or Not. ( Uncertainty Principle )

  These are the principles I live by, sometimes.
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  Post 6: My brother turns on me now - Possible Legal advice

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is a letter i received today with my brother turning on me based on something that was told to him by my crazy mother.

  he works for me, yet has not spoken a word to me in months because he is a self-righteous little dick.. .

  what i would like to know from someone who knows the law, is it possible i can sue him if he pressures people to not work with me because of my religious beliefs????

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  villagegirl

  clean conscience
  
  judge you as an apostate and will not, unless by word or deed you make it known that it is so.
  
  profit materially from one another, if we are unable do the same spiritually.
  
  If in time, circumstance are such that its necessary to do that, I will.
  
  We found out that he was soliciting work in the same field with the same name...

  (1) Clean conscience - what is this supposed to mean in this context?

  It implies one of you is "dirty" ? and that would not be him.

  (2) When he solicitated work under your Reputation and Brand name,

  and Good Will, that was your Intellectual Property, was he having this "clean conscience" ?

  (3) His reasoning is : to profit materially we must agree "spiritually" or religiously ?

  And how does this work across the board for Jehovah's Witnesses in all forms of work ?

  (4) Is there a contractual agreement of any kind between you and your brother ?

  Something in writing to define his status as employee ? Not a partner or owner ?

  Religion aside, you have legal rights, go see a lawyer who specailizes in business law,

  or at least get some books on business law in your State.
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  I still believe in the paradise earth.

  by paul from cleveland in

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  2. friends

  i still believe it's coming.

  i think if god is real, it has to come.

  it only makes sense.

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  ADCMS and punkofnice - You both sound so arrogant and like you know-it-all

  ADCMS wrote "confident of the concept of a "paradise earth"? (which, incidentally, is not a Biblical doctrine,"

  It IS a Biblical concept, loss and renewal, paradise lost, paradise regained.

  Many Christian faiths have retained some version of this, the Adventists think

  people will as they put it; "put on spiritualized but physical bodies"

  and live on earth in a paradise. The point here is that it is not a

  concept unique or original to the WT society.

  More Bible bashing, Christian bashing, mockers of anything mystical.

  You two geniuses think you are philosophers men of reason, superior minds.

  What exactly are you arguing? Against the concept of a higher life form than yourself?

  Against the idea of other beings in the universe that take on other forms than yours ?

  Against the ideals of human advancement to higher states ? Against writings that

  attempt to define rules of conduct for societies?

  Writings that attempt to connect all humans in a universal oneness ?

  and by the way punkofnoce your icon is revolting and offensive.

  Whats the point of coming to a site visited by some people trying to

  find goodness, and hope outside the WT society, hoping they can leave safely

  and then encounter this kind of abuse. You two are ill tempered terrorists.
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  Our Blondie Has A Torn Memiscus.

  by LoisLane looking for Superman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  blondie posted her watchtower comments for today and her last paragraph was asking for help, suggestions.

  she is in pain from her knee injury, is on steroids and possibly going to have surgery.. she is asking if anyone here, has had the same problem, and if so, what did they do and how was the outcome?.

  just lois.

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  villagegirl

  Extremely painful, even imobilized it still hurts.

  anti-inflamatory meds, pain killers, rest, elevation,

  ice if you can stand it, the fluids have to be reabsorbed,

  and the inflamation has to go down, Epson Salt bath can

  help if you can manage that.
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  I still believe in the paradise earth.

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i still believe it's coming.

  i think if god is real, it has to come.

  it only makes sense.

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  villagegirl

  Why do,you think no other bibllical religions teach this promise?

  In fact the theme of "Paradise Lost" and "Paradise Regained" is a common

  belief and the jw's are in no way unique or the inventors of this doctrine.

  Dante wrote an Epic Poem about it, Hieronymus Bosh (15th century)

  did paintings about it, as did Jan the Elder Bruegal (16th century)

  and Lucass the Elder Cranach (16th cent )

  The Persians also depicted Paradise on Earth.

  The Apocalypse of Ezra, a book in Jewish Pseudepigrapha,

  portrays paradise in this way:

  “For you Paradise is open, the Tree of Life planted, the future age and abundance

  are prepared, rest appointed, good words established, and wisdom defined.

  Evil roots are sealed up from you, and sickness extinguished from your path.

  Death is concealed; Hades fled; corruption sinks in oblivion; sorrow is gone,

  and in the end the gold of immortality is manifest” (The Apocalypse of Ezra, 8:52).

  Since paradise has been understood as a peaceful, delightful,

  and blissful place where people can live eternally without pain and death,

  it is no doubt that most people desire to go to there.

  The Quakers and early pilgrims depicted an Isaiah like future

  where the "wolf lies down with the lamb". Many 16th and 17th paintings about it.

  Again - Jehovah's Witnesses persist in their need to be "special" and have

  "special knowledge" There IS no "special knowledge" Its just that JW;s are isolated

  and limited in their world view by the teachings of the WT that warns them not

  to get educated or read "apostate" literature or the teachings of other churches.
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  Does it make sense for God to take 14 billions years to prepare the earth for mankind"

  by jam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  he makes everything ready for us and within seconds we.

  destroy it.

  if the earth is over 14 billions years and the short time.

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  Why are we so obsessed with the idea God liked us best?

  As I see it we were his biggest disappointment. Remember

  he did try to wipe us all off the face of the Earth once and were

  constantly irritating him, and he had to send down his own son

  to try to straighten things out and we killed him. I think God has

  billions of other planets that are doing way better and he has some

  connection with the animals on this planet we don't understand.

  Animals are probably reporting back to God on our behaviour.

  WE are some lower form of life in the universe.

  What is your dog telling god ?

  That dog is watching you for a reason.
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  Indoctrinated Christians...

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking that most indoctrinated christians i know seem never to ever question their faith.

  no matter how sound the reasoning for another belief.in fact the stronger the argument destroying the christians beliefs the more proof positive the indoctrinated christian becomes of its evil origins.

  satan, alert and the built in defence system against reason or logic takes effect.. the above is just my personal observation .

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  villagegirl

  "indoctrinated Christians i know seem never to ever question their faith"

  Questioning your faith ?

  I think you mean questioning the doctrines of the

  church you attend and the specific teachings

  of any established church.

  Faith is separate from doctrines.

  Faith can remain when you cease to believe

  doctrines that do not make sense.

  Faith doesn't even need doctrines.

  Faith is belief connected to God without explanation

  or understanding or proof or definition or substance or reward,

  its joy without cause, its light from within,

  its peace undisturbed by human understanding or experience.

  Faith carries us when all other resources are exhausted ,

  when death may be the only outcome.

  Faith secures us and transports us from material to non material being.
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  did Russell come up with 1914 via the pyramid or just confirm it via pyramid

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i read somewhere that the 1914 date came from bourbor and that russell used the pyramid to confirm his belief in 1914. its this accurate?

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  Wha Happened wrote: "whenever I bring it up, everyone has this look

  on their face like so what. From the same people who don't

  celebrate birthdays."

  This really is some core mental lock-down, inability to see the obvious.

  What is that ? I have an old Russell book with the wings of ISIS on the cover,

  the man was more of a wizard than a Christian, he conjured up fantastical

  and magical ideas and sprinkled them with scriptures ,

  Oh wait a minute, the WT still does that !!! They are still the little men

  behind the curtain, and we are Toto.
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  Genuine repentance - if you can fake that you'll avoid getting disfellowshipped

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to paraphrase a well known saying.

  is it true, in a judicial committee, if you can fake repentance, then they are likely to let you off being disfellowshipped, almost regardless of the "severity" of the sin involved?

  can former elders and perhaps victims of the process shed light on the matter?

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  villagegirl

  My observation in all congregations I attended, if your father was a popular elder,

  you did not get disfellowshipped no matter what you did. I knew an elder who

  was a Dentist and had a huge house and tons of money and threw parties.

  His daughters were "hell-on-wheels" spent all their time in nightclubs, "dated" any

  guy in the nightclub, got pregnant out of wedlock, lied, abused drugs, fornicated

  their brains out, and never got disfellowshipped. Compared to single girls with

  no family or influence and no money who were treated severely and punished,

  shunned, disfelloshipped and abandoned for lesser "crimes" like having a worldy

  boyfriend and getting pregnant by him. These islolated lonely girls had no

  elder father to protect them and were treated completely differently than " Royalty"

  Its a mean-spirited - self righteous community in the so-called "truth"
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  Their name will be their downfall.....

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the bible is written in classical hebrew (there are many other types and older types).

  yhwh is a classical hebrew sentence that roughly means 'he wills it, and it happens'.

  the hebrew language has such mechanisms for saying things in a shortened form, much like today cpr, rsvp, vip etc..... adonai is also classical hebrew, but its a word.... it means 'lord' and 'master'.. .

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  Heathen- How about the Jews ? Do you trust the Jews?

  Jesus was a Jew, all his disciples were Jews.

  Jesus read from the Hebrew scriptures in a Jewish Synagogue

  He attended Temple at the place the Dome of the Rock now is.

  So as a Jew he knew the seven names for God which are:

  (1) Eloah (God) or Elohim (Gods)
  (2) Adonai (Lord)
  (3) Ehyeh-Asher-Ehyeh (I am that I am)
  (4) YHWH (I am that I am)
  (5) El Shaddai (God Almighty)
  (6) HaShem (The Name)
  (7) YHWH Tzevaot (Lord of Hosts: Sabaoth in Latin transliteration)