Posts by villagegirl

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Disassociating

by Godsendconspirator in

hey guys.

don't really post here much, mostly just lurk around.

so here's just backstory: in 2012, after about half a year of research i decided to leave the organization.

villagegirl

• Why formally disassociate yourself?
• It implies you acknowledge their authority as legitimate.

Don't give in. Don't ever give in to their demands.

The best thing you can do is walk away and live a good life unencumbered by their lies.

Letters are permanent and used against you.

Having people turn their backs on you is socially rude! So why give them the gun to pull the trigger?

Not too sure if you have family members or someone who was just nice to you.

You need to figure out all the characters involved.

Not too mention someones child that loves you. We forget about the little ones.

Think about it: Do not give them control.

Do not respond. Do not explain yourself.

Passive resistance, gives them nothing to grasp.

Don't accept interrogations, questions,

or attempts to have elders meet with you.

This is not a legitimate or God approved organization.

So stop treating it as if it is.

You have no obligation to show up at meetings

or explain yourself. A letter will only result in a vicious reaction

and you will be attacked and cut off completely from

these so-called friends, they will turn their backs on you

like the hypocrites they are groomed to be. Outwit them by silence.

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Fed up with the way JWs treat those who can no longer believe

by hotspur in

my favourite uncle died about two years ago (non-witness) and my mother couldn't tell me .

earlier today i went round to the cathedral square of the city where i work for some lunch and i had the misfortune to sit near to an ol'boy witnessing to some people who were too polite to respond.

he kept going on about truth.

villagegirl

This old fart didn't get it at all , the millions who were supposed

to never die were those living in 1919 when the pamphlet was writtien

and talk were given by Rutherford at the Cedar Point Convention, it was

directed at people old enough in 1919 to read and understand the pamphlet,

the avaerage age was 30 years at that Cedar Point 1919 convention,

meaning they were borin in 1889 and would now be

124 years old. The details count and making the jw actually see the lie.

But most reasoning is not able to penetrate the shell of delusion.

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Symposium with a talk about "Human Apostates"

by Prime in

"there is a symposium with a talk about "human apostates" that is very slanderous and defamatory and has the ex-jw blogosphere up in arms over it.".

if a person doesn't fit the description outlined in this talk, the talk isn't referring to you.. .

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villagegirl

Its Hate Speech and should not be allowed in Canada.

The Americans are much more tolerant of such speech.

Canada does not think freedom of speech extends to hate speech

and inciting of hatred or acts against an identified group,

and that is what this talk does. Its disgusting and

full of evil intent towards anyone who disagrees

with the WT. It will incite parents against children

it will incite the weak minded to persecute relatives,

friends, isolted people who are having a hard time

or who question anything. The witnesses like

to think of themselves as "free" free to drink beer

and whiskey, dance, go to movies, get drunk,

party party party they think thats makes them

free compared to conservative Christians

who frown on drinking and dancing , but their slavery

is slavery of thought, or not being able to say

what you mean, to raise your hand in a meeting

and challenge a Watchtower article or suggest a

different interpretation of any scripture or say

"I see no problem with my little girl joining brownies,

so I am going to let her do it" or speaking out

in meeting for college education.

Can you imagine THAT kind of freedom ?

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Assuming the flood story was true , did humans eat meat before the flood ?

by smiddy in

or did the slaughtering of animals as sacrificed to god from abel`s time on , just appease his blood lust.. smiddy.

villagegirl

I am not saying Adam and Eve were vegetarian.

If they were then why did God cover their so-called nakedness

with dead animal skins ?

This pre-flood vegatarianism belief is a persistant doctrine

acquired in the 19th century by Russell, from the

Seven Day Adventists who believe to this day,

being vegetarian is a more spiritually pure way to live.

SDA's put huge emphasis on vegetarian diet

and have Loma Linda Foods, (all vegetarian)

they manufacture and sell food, have a Loma Linda University,

Medical Center and Children's Hospital, the Loma Linda

University Church has a congregation of 7,000.

located in Loma Linda California.

Loma Linda is Spanish for Beautiful Hill.

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Assuming the flood story was true , did humans eat meat before the flood ?

by smiddy in

or did the slaughtering of animals as sacrificed to god from abel`s time on , just appease his blood lust.. smiddy.

villagegirl

Hindus figured out how to survive feeding

the millions of people in India with no killing of animals.

The eat lentils, grains, legumes, dried peas, garlic, yogurt,

a whole array of spices, rice, different kinds of grains,

and seeds, and oil and make cheese without any animal byproducts in it.

and fruit of course, all these things can be dried and therefore stored.

Vegetable Rennet (used by Seventh Day Adventist vegetarians, Buddhists, Hindus )

Several sources of plant-based rennet are perfectly suitable

to make cheese. Some of these plant sources include:

Fig leaves or bark
Melon
Safflower
Wild thistle
Stinging nettle
Mallow

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Read it and Weep

by cha ching in

recently, we were challenged when we told someone that the wt itself says that it is not inspired, and we then were asked is that something you recently started to believe?.

how many people just forget what the wt has said?

well, read it and weep.. .

villagegirl

The Watchtower is like an abusive parent who lies continually

to his children, directs them down wrong roads, promises and promises

rewards on certain days and then when the day comes says;

"I didn't promise that. You hoped in vain, its not my fault."

They are like the worst parent who tells his children to wait,

and then never shows up. The Watchtower never says its sorry,

for people who died following doctrines they later changed.

They never accept responsibility for their own words

which is the definition of an unsafe leader.

They use peoples lives up and then ignore their responsibilty

to them, they abandon the wounded,in battles they started

and sent soldiers into. Which is the definition of a Dictatorship.

They have no compassion for the weak and defensless in their own ranks,

they turn their backs on children, sons, daughters and

encourage their followers to emotionally abuse their own familes,

in direct contradiction of scripture that says:

" Never turn your back on a relative. " Isaiah 58:7

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Read it and Weep

by cha ching in

recently, we were challenged when we told someone that the wt itself says that it is not inspired, and we then were asked is that something you recently started to believe?.

how many people just forget what the wt has said?

well, read it and weep.. .

villagegirl

Cha Ching - If you check with the Bible even on non prophesy issues, Example: like

the doctrine of "two classes" based on the words "other sheep I have which are not

of this fold" which on examination in its context and in other scriptures clearly refers

to the Gentiles joining the Jews and grace and salvation being extended to all nations,

if you were to argue this biblical point with the Watchtower/ governing body you will not

find them open to reason. The two classes, is a made up, WT doctrine, designed to isolate

one body of people as absolute authority, similar to a Pope/Bishops/priests, hierarchy.

They refuse to acknowledge basic scriptures that have day to day practical application,

like the scripture where Jesus said " I was hungry and you fed me naked and you clothed me.

sick and you visited me..." And then said that if you did these acts of kindness to others

it was as if you did it to Jesus personally. This was the central identifying mark, how

we would treat and interact with other people. Reaching out not with magazines but

with actual acts that improve the day to day existance in a material way, of other people.

NOT just other people of our chosen religion, but people we didn't know,

as in the other example he gave of the good Samaritan and the stranger.

These are fundamental basic concepts of social responsibility that the WT turns inward

to worship the governing body and its own organization.

The twisting of simple instructions given by Jesus to be connected and

helpful in society at large, is the way the WT identifies itself

as an anti-Christ organization, who is a wolf in sheeps clothing.

The Watchtower Organization Pretends to be what its is not.

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This organization is diferent than most

by biometrics in

this organization is diferent than most, in the sense that we dont take directions from the outside world.

its like a galaxy.

the sun is in the center giving of energy, and everything revolves around it.

villagegirl

Did you ever noticed how insane or disconnected from reality

famous jw's are ? Or is it that they are in the spotlight and the

strangeness of their beliefs are seen more clearly ?

Glad to hear Michael Jackson's children are breaking free of

grandma's control. I met her once at a meeting at ski resort town,

what a piece of work that woman is.

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This organization is diferent than most

by biometrics in

this organization is diferent than most, in the sense that we dont take directions from the outside world.

its like a galaxy.

the sun is in the center giving of energy, and everything revolves around it.

villagegirl

yadda yadda

so true -

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Making the Jehovah's Witnesses OWN THEIR OWN EVIL

by Terry in

drunkards often scape-goat responsibility onto their drinking--as though it were morally defensible to cause accidents or death!.

serial drinking and driving is a plague on highways across the world.

drunkeness has been labeled as a "disease" and it isn't unusual.

villagegirl

REMOVING CHILDREN FROM NORMAL ACTIVITIES makes them depressed, unconfidant and withdrawn.

This is precisely what happened to my daughter. She wanted to join Brownies, I treated it as if it

was some horrible evil thing , looking back I cannot believe I behaved this way. I loved my daughter.

Brownies ? Really ? I cannot believe I deprived her of normal social experiences like having a Birthday Party

and wrapping up presents for Christmas, I am so, so, sorry, if I could go back and re-do it I would.

Children do not survive intact. They are wounded in ways that make them isolated internally.

Born-ins are living in a trance, like post traumatic stress victims. Those who carry on and inflict this

on the next generation are living half lives, disconnected from reality.