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  Watchtower Society Scandal Involving Menlo Park Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by jwleaks in

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  jw leaks has published court documents relating to the removal of the body of elders in the menlo park congregation of jehovahs witnesses (california, usa), the seizing of control of millions of dollars of congregation assets by watchtower bible and tract society of new york, and the related rico enterprise civil lawsuit against jpmorgan chase bank et al.. backstory: in 2010 the watchtower bible and tract society of new york seized control of millions of dollars of prime real estate assets belonging to the menlo park congregation of jehovahs witnesses, california, by forcefully removing the body of elders and dispersing the congregation.

  money invested by the congregation was also removed from their bank accounts by watchtower representatives.

  those within the congregation that objected to this were threatened with disfellowshipping.

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  What initially prompted the Society to seize control of the Kingdom Hall and accounts? Is there any back info on what started everything?
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  Quote boxes are gone

  by cofty in

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  2. tech-support

  in the paragraph menu it is no longer possible to select "quote".. i tried using the html button to insert quote paragraphs but they get stripped out when you submit.. all the previous posts that included quote boxes have lost the formatting making it impossible to tell if somebody is saying something or quoting somebody.. can it be restored?

  thanks.

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  Along with OUTLAW I've gotten the forum tools back as well. Though, I messed up the html in some of my posts, and whatever change Simon made to get the forum tools back deranged those posts, lol, oh well. I'm guessing he was making changes to his css styles.
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  NEWBIES are leaving like crazy! Be very afraid WT

  by clarity in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  # 3 newbie post.

  first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.

  have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!

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  Here we can talk about anything, share anything, ask anything without fear of being judged, condemned, harassed, ostracised,
  
  .. or Dis-Membered!!

  Very well put!
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  Thinking of visiting a Kingdom Hall after 20 years in disguise

  by not bitter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been to my old kh for 2 funerals since i left 20 yrs ago but i don't think they count.

  so i am thinking of visiting a different hall on a sunday for the public talk and wt study.

  i want to go just to remind myself how simple minded it is and to hopefully help me appreciate how wonderful and free my life now is.

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  Without ever being directly critical of JWs, and without coming off as being satirical or sarcastic, logically and honest-heartedly expose the errors of your former religion in such a way as to make it impossible for the JWs not to see their own organization's behavior and policies being mirrored in your former false religion. What would be super-golden, is if the Watchtower study material is of such a nature that it affords you an opportunity to share, in a brief comment, one example of the JW-mirroring, hypocrisy of your former religion and how you were able to logically refute it with scripture. That would be a TTATT WMD! That ought to really get them thinking.

  lol, such an epic idea. You should find some way of recording everything for us

  mfw i hear the comment

  
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  What Are Some Stupid Rules In Watchtower World?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there's a lot.

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  one that i just don't understand is that no one should hold hands during a prayer.. where the hell do they come up with these rules??

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  Over the years, I've hotly debated the beard rule.

  In a priceless discussion some years ago, someone with great exuberance asks me " . . . do you think Jehovah would want you to grow a beard????!!!!!"

  to which my equally emphatic response was "are you JOKING? If Jehovah didn't want me to have a beard, HE WOULDN'T HAVE MADE ONE GROW ON MY FRIGGIN FACE"
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  NEWBIES are leaving like crazy! Be very afraid WT

  by clarity in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  # 3 newbie post.

  first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.

  have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!

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  erbie, I would agree with you there. I think most of new people joining this site are either just plain confused, or disagree entirely with the "new light". Oh well, as it's been stated in other threads here, most of the WT changes are really only circumstantial reactions to current events or developments.
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  NEWBIES are leaving like crazy! Be very afraid WT

  by clarity in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  # 3 newbie post.

  first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.

  have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!

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  Hi Warehouse, welcome.
  You are going to have to stop thinking if you really want to stay inside.

  Cofty,
  On this I would politely disagree (Proverbs 1:1-9, Malachi 3:16)
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  NEWBIES are leaving like crazy! Be very afraid WT

  by clarity in

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  # 3 newbie post.

  first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.

  have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!

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  Warehouse .......wowie...you could be WT's worst enemy,
  
  ... if you really wanted to!
  
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  Why don't you keep on hanging around here... put your feet up,
  
  & just relax and see what happens. Your synapses need a rest,
  
  I say this as a mother .
  
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  Because this is your first post...I'll put you on our Newbie list,
  
  just scout around here & you'll find it.
  
  
  
  sincerely clarity

  As a son who has lost his own mother, I greatly appreciate your words and generosity. You should know that I have scouted around here, for many years infact. But there is still alot more to learn and find from others experiences and genuine people like yourself. I do plan to stick around for as long as I am permitted! A long time ago, a man once said that you should love your enemies and pray for those persecuting you. If it is at all within my power, I wish to be no ones enemy.
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  Special Olympics, per H20 post

  by waiting in

  1. jw
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  posted by inkie49.

  received the following.

  i just thought it was great!

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  NEWBIES are leaving like crazy! Be very afraid WT

  by clarity in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  # 3 newbie post.

  first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.

  have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!

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  Hey everyone,

  I joined earlier this year, mainly because I've been coming here for years to download all the information that the JW organization likes to hide and compartmentalize. I was raised as a JW and have been baptized for a little over 18 years. I was once disfellowshiped, but then reinstated, and thus, due to the trauma this caused me, as well as separate events in my immediate family caused buy the written/oral JW codes and traditions, I decided to do some independent research; of which this site has been an excellent springboard.

  I don't see myself leaving the organization again, or in the near future. Unfortunately, my mind has been emotionally brainwashed/scarred to accept the way of life that comes from being a part of the JWs. But over the years, my logic and thinking ability has become so radically independent from my emotions (INTJ personality) that I thirst for equally independent and factual information in all shapes and forms to satiate my development of an unbiased framework and reservoir for debates, discussions and personal thought. And through this historical, psychological, and scientific research, I have also come to distrust and over analyze the common doctrine, theology, philosophy, timelines, and even the prose of the WBTS.

  More recently, because of my incessant fact-checking, my mind wanders at meetings and I constantly find myself thinking, "Is that really true? Hmm, what Greek words are actually being used there? How would I support or deconstruct this idea using solely the Bible? What other scriptures are referenced?" This has led to an INSANE improvement in the quality of my comments, talks, and ministry. When I study JW publications, I am compelled to verify, prove, cross-examine, quantify, associate, research, disprove, and THINK about what is being said. Sometimes this leads me to a conclusion that matches the JWs, sometimes it does not. When I give a comment/talk, I am forced to state absolute truth, and filter out hypothetical supposition and reasoning, without alarming anyone or stating anything in direct conflict with JW doctrine. It has been, indeed, an exercise in self-control, patience and mental fortitude.

  Some on this site would probably suggest that I leave the organization, especially after knowing I've read and been personal witness to the atrocities and failings of the JWs. To me, this is the same ethnographic result as being an indoctrinated JW and saying that you have the only truth to be found. I am still grateful to those same people, who have debated fiercely, and exposed so many discrepancies. For me, this site has been a catalyst to a sort of spiritual catharsis, as well as an extrusion into a crystalline structure of faith beyond anything I ever had previously hoped for.