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  IN THEIR OWN WORDS: The mean-spirit of Russell's sham marriage

  by Terry in

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  2. bible

  it is commonly known by jehovah's witnesses, the marriage of pastor c.t.russell and his wife maria (moe-rye-uh) was an uneasy one.. the marriage itself was founded on a weird interpretation of "virginity" and "purity" as only an obsessive-compulsive.

  puritan fanatic might find agreeable.

  the two of them were not to share a bed (or physical relations.).

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  Focus wrote:

  When he went into the very young servant girl's room, the door would be locked, and one conjectures he went into the servant girl too.

  . . .

  ("Ball" Class)

  I'm dying in laughter
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  The INTJ Personality Type, (and those close to it)

  by done4good in

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  2. friends

  i am compelled to write a bit about this at this late hour here in the us, because it is keeping me up.. the recent four year old thread on the briggs myers personality type test that was dug up, produced an interesting finding.

  many here, (at least tested informally for), the intj personality type.

  intjs also do not understand irrational behavior particularly well at all.. why does this matter?

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  done4good wrote:

  . . . but the reality is, they do not deal with irrational behavior well. That includes their own irrational behavior, that they themselves are sometimes are susceptible to.

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  We do not have a built in mechanism for coping with this other than our analytical skills, which are inadequate to understand this irrational behavior.

  I've often thought about this as well. I can remember when I was a child, a lot of times just wanting to remove emotions from myself altogether because they were so distracting and I viewed them as exhausting and a complete waste of time. As I grew older, I realized that most people fell into two general categories, those disposed to dealing with emotions or with logic. And the problem of dealing with others irrational behavior, as well as my own, became more and more something that I wanted to solve, at least to provide a personal way of coping. I've come to the following conclusions, that I've found work well for me:

  External Irrational behavior:

  This one was easy, and as I'm sure most NT types will agree, ignorance is bliss. As an introvert, it's easy for me to ignore people, to keep completely silent when nonsense is happening. If a person is extremely insistent on my participation, I will oblige in a variety of ways, including, but not limited to; logical dissection, sarcasm, raucous laughter, beratement, contrarianism and so forth.

  The key idea being that external irrational behavior is like a fire. It needs fuel to consume, and if I provide no additional fuel, I can be patient and wait for it to burn out. If I can somehow remove the fuel, it will be extinguished. If I can give it too much fuel all at once, I might just let it explode and watch with certain satisfaction as it burns everyone and everything around it.

  Internal Irrational behavior:

  Dealing with my own nonsense has not been such a strategic progression. I wrote one time in my journal that I felt like my emotions were leaking out of me, in ways I couldn’t predict or control. I thought at one time that, not unlike when I was younger, if I were to just embrace my emotions they would somehow leave me, as if they would get bored with me or something. But the same emotions would come back. And my reaction to them was still unpredictable, even if I was settled on the acceptance of them.

  My personal solution? I collect my irrational emotions. I save them. I can’t relish in them by becoming overly happy/angry/sad etc., yet I can’t shave them off because they just come back thicker. So I store them, sometimes labeled neatly, sometimes generalized haphazardly, depending on their volume and/or frequency. I transform them into works of art, or sharpen them into weapons of destruction. I might distill them into harmlessly repetitive actions, or focus them to produce epic, irreplicable feats of physical or mental precision.
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  What's your personality type? Myers-Briggs test

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  take this 72 yes/no question test to find out.. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp.

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  OneEyedJoe wrote:

  I would argue your last point, I'm not self-righteous or arrogant. I just come off that way to people because I'm aware of the fact that I'm always right.

  Haha, very well said! I know I come off as self-righteous and arrogant because . . . well, I am. Also, your link had me dying in laughter.
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  What's your personality type? Myers-Briggs test

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  take this 72 yes/no question test to find out.. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp.

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  OneEyedJoe wrote:

  I'm with you on everything you said, and I'm not sure where the conflict with what you said and what I said lies.

  The conflict is the idea of an INTJ verifying information based on the fact that another person is an INTJ.

  Because of that, I often look for INTJs writing about being an INTJ, just to know that I'm not insane because of how I think.

  I'm thinking you're really an INTP. The reason I say this is because an introverted-judger is able to judge themselves. The introverted-judging aspect is what allows an INTJ to make up their mind, and stick to a plan/idea, even if no one agrees, or can understand. An introverted perciever, on the other hand, is one who explores all options, and thus sometimes cannot come to a conclusion without outside consultation. The introverted perceivers are usually the brilliant savants. The introverted judgers are usually the brilliant strategists.

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  I should add, judgers tend to be self-righteous and arrogant, perceivers tend to be disillusioned and paranoid.
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  What's your personality type? Myers-Briggs test

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  take this 72 yes/no question test to find out.. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp.

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  OneEyeJoe wrote:

  they may find comfort in reading things from other INTJs (it's nice to know that there are other people that can relate to how you think) which, again, makes them more likely to participate in personality test threads on forums, since that's the surest way to find an INTJ talking about the quirks of being an INTJ

  Lol, do you even know how the mind of an INTJ works?

  Your logic is not flawed, but it does not describe INTJ behavior. I'll give you a quick look into the core of an INTJ: Thinking or acting based on what another personality type says or thinks is the complete OPPOSITE of what an INTJ is all about. The INTJ will automatically REJECT information that is solely backed by position, steryotype, or lables. The INTJ will ruthlessly question everyone, and everything, even themselves.

  And this is why I said that most who come here and say they are INTJ are likely to be another type, just influenced by others. I see A LOT of parroting what others have said, as well as exploding arguments over facts that are either unverified, or complete hearsay. The INTJ does NOT repeat things without questioning, verifying, and JUDGING the information.
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  What's your personality type? Myers-Briggs test

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  take this 72 yes/no question test to find out.. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp.

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  DATA-DOG wrote:

  The test is a little subjective. Enviroment can effect your actions and you may spill over into another TYPE.

  I agree completely. I've seen people take these little online tests, and then take the same test on a different day and their results are completely different. The only way to be sure is to take the official Meyer Briggs test which is administered by a trained psychologist, and will usually run you upwards of $150 or so. I wouldn't be surprised if people on here who come back as INTx are really another type, their answers being influenced by personalities or general consensus of this website.
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  What's your personality type? Myers-Briggs test

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  take this 72 yes/no question test to find out.. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp.

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  DJS wrote:

  Warehouse, your'e onto something. Remember the Star Trek Generation episode where they captured the young Borg, named him Hugh and re-programmed him to send back into the hive? Let's do it!!! Ok, who voluteers?

  I do remember that one. Except they realized he wasn't a borg anymore and decided not to send him back.

  I wish we could do it, but we'd have to have more than one person, and I think they'd have to be in the same cong, or at least circuit, for it to work.
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  What's your personality type? Myers-Briggs test

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  take this 72 yes/no question test to find out.. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp.

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  Frazzled/DJS,

  I was thinking along your same reasoning. The NT type has the unique ability to completely understand abstraction in its many forms. The NT type also is able to understand abstract ideas so thoroughly, that they can take an idea that is abstract and transform it into a concrete, logical solution.

  This is a nightmare for the borg because often times, they will intentionally write/talk in abstract ideas to inspire people, but without any concrete solution or reason. The NT type can take that abstract idea and apply it to people’s lives, or a congregations needs, or deconstruct it entirely, proving it has no merit. The NT type is, like you guys pointed out, the most likely to exit, or make no organizational progress, and they are the most likely to be skeptical of others, especially when emotions are involved, or when postion/power is at stake.

  Because of all of this, I’ve often thought that the NT type is really the greatest intellectual threat to the borg. Not only because they can tear their ideas down, but because if enough NT minds came together, they could destroy the entire borg from within.
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  Guidelines for Traveling Overseers (tga-S)

  by hildebrando in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  today, thanks to a brave do and my colleague elkatire 1980, we make make public the manual, guidelines for traveling overseers (tga-s), of which existence many suspected, but even in english, it wasnt available.. from its very title page, this book indicates in bold letters:.

  it should not be shown to others, nor should any portion of it be reproduced.

  note: for now, this book is only available in spanish, but we are working in translating a brief summary in english, hoping that someone from the english congregations makes it available to you soon.. http://hildeydesa.blogspot.com/2014/06/pautas-para-los-superintendentes.html.

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  Any update on getting an English version?
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  Survey---who is inactive, disfellowshipped/disassociated or active?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am inactive for about 10 years now..

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  active. almost an MS, lol. should i call it off?