Great letter. The letter was the easy and cheap way for you daughters ex to be free to get remarried. Now the elders will tell the ex that he will have to gather evidence (hire a detective to follow your daughter etc.) to prove she is living in sin. When they feel sufficient proof to have been gathered, then he will be able to remarry.
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My Daughter's Letter to Elders!
by reubenfine inwell, my daughter decided to write they letter.
the foundation for this letter can be found in my previous thread a couple of days ago which can be found at http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=44457&site=3.. she wrote her heart and gave them some good counsel.
she was generous and kind in her comments, yet concise and to the point.
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What do I tell my parents?
by truthseekers1 ini have decided to no longer be a jw.
this comes after spending all but 3 of my 36 yrs on this earth as one.
yes it is a huge step, but one i know i must make.
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wheelwithinwheel
Fade... let them ask why... tell them there are a lot of things troubling you... don't empty the whole barrel all at once, tell them 1 thing that upsets you at a time.
If you mention facts that are undeniable and simply say they are troubling you it will be difficult to d'a you. A C.O. visited us and wanted to know what was going on. We told him a lot of things were troubliing us like people getting told not to have kids now on their pension, 1975, the peace and security talks, king of the north and south etc. He couldn't deny any of the points that we told him upset us, and he couldn't d'f us for them ... after all we didn't teach them!
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What's the Most Boring Thing?
by Satanus infor me the most boring activity is filling out income tax forms.
i find the most boring person is the dali lama.
just looking at him makes me feel bored.
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wheelwithinwheel
hard to rate these in order:
the January meeting detailing how to conduct thyself for the summer conventions
the visiting gouverning body member's talk at the convention
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wheelwithinwheel
Simon, how could you, you have spoiled next season's episode for everyone
BTW great pic
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Why So Many Magazines?
by JH inwhy does the watchtower have to print so many different magazines every two weeks?
the truth is out since over 2000 years, and the truth didn't change since the time of jesus.
so why does the watchtower have to give us the latest version of the truth every 2 weeks?
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wheelwithinwheel
Keep one submissive group busy, reading the mindset, maintaining the WT mould on their heads, feeling superior and spiritual, exclaiming: Wasnt that a timely article in the latest Tower.
This in turn keeps the other less submissive group, who doesnt read all the mind control articles, in check, by making them feel guilty and inferior: Duh, no, I havent got around to that article yet, duh
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Blame Canada!!
by gsx1138 inmy wife and i are starting to look into moving out of the u.s. we are looking at both canada and australia but are leaning to canada.
keep in mind we are just starting to do research so we haven't delved too far in to the politics or locations in canada.
does anyone have any location suggestions?
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wheelwithinwheel
Experience what ACSOT describes. Visit Montreal. Tour the medical facilities. Don't worry about the French. People move to Montral who don't speak English or French. Enjoy this great city!
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Our Kids Feel Like Freaks
by Shakita ini was reading the february 15, 2003 wt which had an article on page 23 entitled "do not leave your child's heart to chance.
" on page 26 under the subheading "even from within the congregation.
" the wt overlords say: "although your teenage child appears to be in good spiritual health, inside he may be struggling with a divided heart.
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Memories
Morning services sitting at my desk while the others stood, saluted, sang etc. memory: a teacher decided to do Bible reading, Dad said I could participate brought my Bible (NWT) my turn to read everyone freaking out that my Bible was completely different from their Bibles. A little girl named Donna her mother sending her with the same Bible as me (NWT). Her being laughed at and called a Jehoboswitch too. Donna wasnt a Jehoboswitch.
Art class always telling the teacher that I couldnt draw that. Teacher had to propose a substitute Oh, you arent allowed to draw a Christmas tree with lights on it, then draw a fir tree with snow on it.
Music class not singing half the songs which were pagan or nationalistic or just wrong for no apparent reason memory: teacher behind me noticing I wasnt singing, grabbed me by the hair and pulled me back to his face demanding why I wasnt singing. Muttering some poor excuse and worrying for days after what was going to happen because of this incident.
Remembrance day: the longest minutes of my life, sitting while everyone else was standing at attention. memory: one year the teacher decided to send the 3 J.W kids to the principals office we had to take our desks and chairs out of the class and push them down the halls and then carry them down the stairways to the office then all the way back - everyone in the school had heard the racket and this incident became the student agenda for days.
Keeping all non-JW students (especially girls) at a distance, worried my parents would learn I was making worldly friends.
Gotta stop thinking about this, Im getting upset
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my dad died
by termite 35 indear everyone, my dad died suddenly and unexpectedly at the weekend.he did'nt turn up for a family dinner and my husband and i went to see if he was ok.he was dead.collapsed in his home.i can't stop shaking and i feel really sick.i've lost my mum and now my dad too.i wish i could sleep for months and wake when the pain has finished with me.
it hurts so much .sorry to bring everyone down-but i'm stressed at having to sort out his arrangements due to the autopsy and funeral etc and the house and my feelings.
; i just wanted to tell you all as my husband's gone for a walk and the children are asleep and i'm feeling scared about viewing his body, but i know i'll have to and i feel guilty for feeling like that.stupid thoughts racing through my mind at the moment-need to 'hear' a friendly voice .
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wheelwithinwheel
((((TERMITE))) VERY SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR DAD PASSING.
WHEELS
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Blame Canada!!
by gsx1138 inmy wife and i are starting to look into moving out of the u.s. we are looking at both canada and australia but are leaning to canada.
keep in mind we are just starting to do research so we haven't delved too far in to the politics or locations in canada.
does anyone have any location suggestions?
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wheelwithinwheel
Taxes are high in Canada, lower in Alberta (no provincial tax) - re-visiting the States you will find your hard earned Canadian dollar won't go far. I personally prefer Montreal over Toronto (expensive housing) or Vancouver (rainy and expensive housing)
Visit Montreal before making any decisions
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Thank you for your replies!
by scaredyetresolved ini told my husband last week that i didn't plan on going to chats or forums.
we've been trying very hard to stay on neutral ground.
we began by just researching all the history of jws and turning to the publications published by the society, to either back the history we were reading, or to dispel it.
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Great to hear from you Scaredyetresolved
make no mistake da = df (read C of C)
I would have preferred to da but the Wt policy makes fading necessary
This is how we faded:
My wife stopped pioneering. My wife stopped going in service. I stopped pioneering. My wife stopped going to the b.s. I stepped down as an elder, saying I was uncomfortable giving talks and counsel with my wife doing spiritually poorly. I slowed to 1 hr./month. I stopped going to the book study. I stopped going in service. We started attending only Sunday. We started missing some Sundays. We stopped going Sundays. During all this time we werent bothered too much. The C.O called a few times, I told him it wasnt convenient to visit. He dropped in once. My wife was home. She let him in. That was a big mistake. Some day I will post the letter she wrote him and the e.b. afterwards. Since then he phoned again to meet with me. I told him no thanks! I had to go out for a walk (exercise ha-ha).
We played the hypocrites with the family (who didnt know the situation) until the C.O. blabbed, but it was just as well. The hypocrite thing was difficult. When it came down to a family discussion we just said we thought everyone present was pretty qualified to understand the Bible, maybe even as well as the G.B. and talked a little about 75, the king of the north and south, how it is possible to even think one could explain Rev. and Ezek etc. verse-by-verse when one has difficulty understanding a prophecy of Jesus (generation). Some time later when the family made some comments about some new point, we just said we dont know anything about it, we dont go anymore.
Were probably looked on as having been disillusioned by 1975 and fallen to materialism. We dont care because so far the elders havent bothered to revisit and the family still talks to us.
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