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  I need a particular Watchtower photograph

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  hi everyone,.

  i would like to get a better copy of the watchtower november 15th 1916 copy, where there's a picture of the flowers and everything dedicated to russell when he died.. can someone get a good scan of that?.

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  Not the pic you asked for, but interesting book about Russell: The Laodicean Messenger , PDF available on archive.org

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  Hypocritical video on jw.org "what's a real friend."

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. beliefs

  have you watched the 4 min animated white board drawing video on jw.org called "what's a real friend?".

  it is one of the most hypocritical pieces they have produced!.

  it goes into detail explaining that real friends "don't judge you, dont talk about you behind your back, don't hold grudges, don't expect you to conform, and encourage individuality!".

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  Hypocritical video on jw.org "what's a real friend."

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. beliefs

  have you watched the 4 min animated white board drawing video on jw.org called "what's a real friend?".

  it is one of the most hypocritical pieces they have produced!.

  it goes into detail explaining that real friends "don't judge you, dont talk about you behind your back, don't hold grudges, don't expect you to conform, and encourage individuality!".

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  Undeniable proof the Organisation has Jehovah’s Blessing and Direction

  by wheelwithinwheel in

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  Social media strategy to expose JW molestation issues

  by JimmyPage in

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  there are a lot of jws who will never hear about the molestation issues the wt has because all their friends on social media are fellow cult members.. what i'm going to attempt is to create a profile for an alter ego.

  it will have a profile pic and banner that says "jw.org" or some other pro-jw nonsense.. then i will attempt to befriend a jw.

  when one bites and accepts me the others will fall like dominoes and also accept my friendship.. at first i will post pro-jw things that will get me "likes", subscribers, and promotions in their news feed.. then i will lower the boom by posting the recent news video from the texas molestation story.

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  Do it JP. It works.

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  A question that bugging me

  by wheelwithinwheel in

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  why it has been deemed appropriate to assign brothers and sisters in each international convention city to spend hours and hours making souvenir grab bags full of knick-knacks.

  and to assign other brothers and sisters to spend hours and hours preparing choreography, music, lighting, costumes and props, and practicing and practicing cowboy songs, pop music, dance and jw.org skits.. .

  and to assign other brothers and sisters to spend hours and hours constructing giant bibles popping out of jw.org boxes and giant bibles turning into baptismal pools.. .

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  I HAVE TO WONDER:

  WHY IT HAS BEEN DEEMED APPROPRIATE TO ASSIGN BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN EACH INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION CITY TO SPEND HOURS AND HOURS MAKING SOUVENIR GRAB BAGS FULL OF KNICK-KNACKS

  

  AND TO ASSIGN OTHER BROTHERS AND SISTERS TO SPEND HOURS AND HOURS PREPARING CHOREOGRAPHY, MUSIC, LIGHTING, COSTUMES AND PROPS, AND PRACTICING AND PRACTICING COWBOY SONGS, POP MUSIC, DANCE AND JW.ORG SKITS.

  

  AND TO ASSIGN OTHER BROTHERS AND SISTERS TO SPEND HOURS AND HOURS CONSTRUCTING GIANT BIBLES POPPING OUT OF JW.ORG BOXES AND GIANT BIBLES TURNING INTO BAPTISMAL POOLS.

  

  AND ALL THIS TIME, EFFORT AND MONEY ARE BEING DEVOTED, NOT FOR BROTHERS IN NEED, BUT SIMPLY TO ENTERTAIN INTERNATIONAL DELEGATES WHO HAVE THE MEANS TO FLY ALL AROUND THE PLANET.

  WHEN THE CONSTANT MESSAGE WE HEAR LOCALLY FROM THE GOVERNING BODY IS: THE TIME IS SHORT AND EVERYONE SHOULD DEVOTING EVERY SPARE MOMENT TO THE PIONEER SERVICE TO BE SURE THAT NO RIGHTEOUS PERSON WILL BE DESTROYED.

  

  AM I THE ONLY ONE SEEING SOME INCONSISTANCY HERE?
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  Yesterday's a.m. shepherding call

  by wheelwithinwheel in

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  painting an empty apartment knock at the door

  ron the elder doing not-at-homes.

  comments on: well how you doing dave?

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  The Watchtower we ask the question, we furnish the answer format has eliminated JW's reasoning capacities. When they feel an uncertainty creeping into their minds, and a question begins to form, it is quickly stifled with the knee-jerk reaction..."I'm here for Jehovah and need to leave it in his hands". Most changes to doctrine slip by completely unnoticed because, today, most JW's aren't even sure of the old light.

  In my most recent contacts, I've discovered the new 'pledge arrangement' and 'encouraged worldly convention antics' seem to be much more effective for breaking through the fog than pointing out doctrine change. However, even then, I'm getting the "I'm serving Jehovah, not men" line.
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  Yesterday's a.m. shepherding call

  by wheelwithinwheel in

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  painting an empty apartment knock at the door

  ron the elder doing not-at-homes.

  comments on: well how you doing dave?

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  Wow, 11 years ago...can't believe the angels are still managing to hold back those winds of destruction. Still got a lot of family connections but don't hear a lot locally. Last time I got news, Ron's JW son-in-law had committed suicide. The story was he had been on apostate sites and lost his hope of eternal life in paradise. Might have phoned Ron with my condolences, but found out about a year too late. Be really surprised if Ron's out. He was pretty fanatical. Hard to manage in a judicial comity...believed ever sinner needed to be cast out. He had closed his constuction company and was pioneering when he wasn't at an RBC project. He was gettin' in his hours, alone, when he stopped in all those years back.
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  Embarrassed and Glassy-Eyed stop by

  by wheelwithinwheel in

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  2. experiences

  two brothers doing the territory stopped in at my place.

  i kept them on the step.

  after some hellos and catching up, i said so you folks are on tv now.

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  Two brothers doing the territory stopped in at my place. I kept them on the step. After some hellos and catching up, I said “So you folks are on TV now”. I was quickly corrected. I should have said “We” are on TV now. I said “OK that’s nice to know I’m still included”. They insisted I was still deeply loved by the congregation. I told them I was quite shocked at the direction the organisation taking, especially after all those years of criticism of televangelists. Then I got into this year’s conventions, the “I love this city” video campaigns, jw.org tourist attraction pamphlets, guided tours of the city, brothers organising “mob” events, pop music, line dancing and disco dance lessons on the Kingdom Hall podium, trinkets and souvenirs, silly banners waved around, cheering, hooting and doing the Mexican wave at the theocratic venues. I then added, that’s why I said “you folks” because frankly, I don’t agree with all this ‘imitating the world stuff’. If ‘imitating the world’ is what it takes to get the brothers to attend the conventions, then the GB, and you guys personally, should be asking yourselves some very serious questions.

  I got a sheepish, embarrassed look from one of the brothers.

  But the other one went glassy-eyed and plunged into how great jw.org was, the immense success it enjoyed, and how Jehovah was behind the changes, because thousands were coming into the Truth every month now. People, especially the younger generation, were learning about jw.org because it was popping-up on their devices.

  I reminded him that Jesus had taught the path was narrow, it wasn’t going to just pop-up on a device. Before, JW’s had always believed and taught an effort was involved. I added that if the number was really growing that fast perhaps he should start questioning the destination of jw.org’s path. He didn’t get it.

  I looked at them both and said “What really concerns me are the buttons, stickers, etc. and everyone plastering their fingernails and cupcakes with jw.org. Family study has become family worship, and for family worship, the family makes jw.org cookies. At the conventions jw.org is up on jumbotrons 160 X 72 feet long and it’s beginning to look like Israel to me….you know” and, determined to etch a visual memory of my thoughts into their minds, I kneeled down on the pavement, did a long Mecca Bow, then finished my sentence with “…the golden calf.”

  There were bystanders on the street, this was becoming too embarrassing for them and they suddenly became pressed for time.

  I got quite a kick out of this discussion and thought I’d share it. I think it underlines what I’ve discovered over time. It a lot harder to get a JW out, than it is to get him in.

  However, my real point is: this summer the GB has given all faders ‘a gift on a silver platter’. An easy to explain, non-doctrinal, impossible- to- disfellowship reason for leaving JW’s. A deep discomfort with the “worldly” direction the organisation is headed in.

  I’m at a timeframe where it would be ridiculous to announce I was disfellowshipped, so I felt quite a ease to leave them with the added thought, “You know with all these new developments, I’m starting to wonder if you folks aren’t part of Babylon the Great, LOL”. They stopped smiling.
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  Party in the kingdom hall!

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  check it out and download before i am forced to take it down!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf_rfrusa1c.

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  "Obviously some elders sanctionned this but what proof is there that the GB organized this?"

  1. Any activity officially organized by the JW brass is tightly controlled - even the delegates are hand-picked, check out an application - at the convention the Society even decides who can carry a mop - Is it reasonable there would not have been precise instructions as to the entertainment? This organization is about control.

  2. The Organizations view on gatherings has always been "Watch out what you organize because you're responsible for what goes on". I remember elders who wouldn't even MC a wedding in case something went wrong. So who organized the Entertainment? It's at every venue...strange coincidence if it wasn't the GB who were responsible.

  3. The script used at the party sounds Bethel-tuned...the "Congregator" etc.

  Of course the official line will be denial just like it was for the UN membership