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  What was the JW breaking point 4 U?

  by ashitaka in

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  we have a thread that asks why we became jw's, so i became curious as to why some of us have left.

  what was the last straw for you?.

  mine was the treatment of my wife.

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  No real breaking point, just a lot of cracks finally added up. Here’s one thing that really bugged us.

  A couple of years ago a new NWT, French edition, was brought out. Apparently a few Hebrew and Greek names had not been properly translated and were being mispronounced. The WT explanation was so feeble it was a laugh. The worst thing was that the pronunciation logic presented was not followed when it involved a well-known name. The elder who had to deal with the meeting part and explain these changes privately termed it « pretty stupid ».

  Now this happened to be at the beginning of the voluntary contribution era and seemed to be a good money-making scheme ... at least we think so.

  Everyone was told to get themselves a proper (new) bible and give a generous contribution for this loving provision.

  I remember reading from my old Bible a few months later and getting « looks » of « Oh, you rebellious one ».
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  JW's Speak For Brother Beliz

  by silentlambs in

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  i have added the letters from friends and family in behalf of manuel beliz to the court.

  the button is on the front page of the website.

  it is odd that the letter seem to follow a similar pattern to the testimony in the paul berry sentencing hearing.

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  Coaching ? Ha,Ha,Ha...

  When it comes to « defending Jehovah’s name » nothing is spared or left to chance

  There was a child custody case where the J.W’s had to win - the KH was converted into a court room and J.W lawyers grilled witnesses for days showing them the « appropriate way » to answer questions from Satan’s forces. All the locals involved were quite impressed to learn it was all in the way something is put ... but then we all know that over the years the WT have had to become experts at this game
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  LIST of over 100 WTS Corps! (Surprises!)

  by Amazing in

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  some of these will surprise you: i have captured nearly all watchtower society corporations in the united states.

  i have placed those of greatest interest at the top.

  watchtower bible & tract society of new york inc brooklyn, ny headquarters.

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  I heard all congs. with property (halls) were required by the WT to get Inc.’d with the WT. The story went that some congregation had da’d itself from the WT and made off with the Kingdom Hall. In our area this was done by a WT appointed notary and all the elders were required to sign over the halls.
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  "nothing more than your biological mother&...

  by wheelwithinwheel in

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  just met an ex who left her husband and dad herself about 3 yrs ago.

  her daughter who is still a jw had kept in contact but recently stopped calling.

  the ex-sister told me she was going crazy not having news, especially since her daughter was now pregnant.

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  Just met an ex who left her husband and da’d herself about 3 yrs ago. Her daughter who is still a JW had kept in contact but recently stopped calling. The ex-sister told me she was going crazy not having news, especially since her daughter was now pregnant. Finally she couldn’t stand it any longer and phoned to tell her daughter that all she asked was to feel her grand-child move in her daughter’s tummy before it was born. Her daughter was extremely upset and told her the C.O. had been by and told her she was not to have any more contact with her mom, who he classified as "nothing more than your biological mother". (So much for the un-severed family ties) The mom couldn’t believe this guy doing this because, years ago, he was the one who had studied with them, and apparently knew the husband’s problems in detail..

  Although I don’t know any details of this family’s situation, I have noticed a peculiar tendency over the years. Many times it would become evident that a husband was acting like an ass and being abusive, at least mentally. Then the sister would leave, and end up df’d or da’d. Even though many in the congregation, including the elders, suspected and even discussed the brother’s abuse, the brother would be pitied and taken under the congregation’s spiritual wing; but the sister, who had been the victim, seemed to always be the "wicked sinner".

  Anyway I’m happy to report the daughter disobeyed the C.O’s orders, had the mom over, and is now keeping touch
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  no blood cards this year!

  by DIM in

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  last night at meeting they told us to just use our blood cards from last year.

  in the past they've always told us how important it was to get it signed every year so that people could see our current views as jw's.....doesn't this new arangement negate everything they've ever said in regards to this?

  absolutely nuts!.

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  I think they're having 2nd thoughts about being accused by the press of forcing the issue on their members. Remember they give out the cards and tell everyone to fill them out and sign them. Pretty difficult not to obey if you’re at that meeting. They even sent the elders to fill in the cards with those not at the meeting that night. I’ve heard they’re working on spiritual vocabulary to insure that any interviews with pubs. radiate free choice.

  Personally, I always hated that meeting and even though I agreed with the policy I always felt my decision was being made for me.
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  I'm another Newbie

  by MyMy in

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  hey peeps, how are you?.

  the name is mark, i've been hanging around here from time to time.

  i read about the elders meeting with officer danni.s.

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  tyydyy:That does clarify a few things for me. I wish I were there. That would have been soooooooooo cool. I really would have wanted to hear the questions and answers afterward. The looks on the faces of everyone ......Man where are the cameras when you really need them...

  WE NEED TO HEAR THE TAPE
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  DEATH OF LAZYASS

  by gilwarrior in

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  today my mother informed me that the husband of the woman who she first studied with died yesterday.

  to be honest his death didn't effect me one way or another since i hadn't seen in years and i was never that close to him.

  i don't remember his name, but what i remember most about him was that years ago, when i was a kid, several of the young people in our congregation nicknamed him "lazybutt.

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  I used to feel that way about all the lazyasses

  After going through and observing the ms and elder ladder-climbing and all the hand-stomping coming from the boots of the guys on the higher rungs I'm now convinced the lazyasses were the only sane ones in the KH.

  Funny one just died in my area and the CO gave a talk saying this bro understood the more important issues. Which I believe was true in his case. Sadly the only reason the CO was kind to him in his talk was because the lazyass was his father-in-law.
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  I Went in Field Service Yesterday!!

  by Valentine in

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  i must say i thoroughly enjoyed doing streetwork for the first time in my life!!.

  it was really cold here in chicago yesterday,snow clouds looming in the sky.

  about 10 am i decided to run home for my cofee break.. as i rushed down the main street,walking quickly,i saw 2 groups of jw's w/ their mags on the main street near home.. i haven't seen any around my territory since last spring.. humph i thought.. i double-timed it home,bundled up,grabbed my stacks of silentlambs posters and ran back to the main street.. i stood on the corner,several feet ahead of them and started saying hi to passers by.

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  you get to report and be paid triple time for this

  great job!
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  The meeting did not go well.

  by Danni in

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  it would have taken more much more time to tell it all.

  he told us the meeting would began as soon as the other brothers arrived.

  danni: i will give you two.

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  Hey Danni

  Wow !

  Just skimmed through - sorry if I missed some details. Looks to me as if the JW’s were prepared for you (number of elders there, WT legal present on speakerphone). You’re probably on WT legal tape. The gag order doesn’t surprise. Some years ago here, Children Services began an investigation, WT legal flew in, and a few days later CS sent an apology over how their investigation was handled. The case was dropped (don’t know particulars). Lately Dateline starts filming a show and seems to have dropped the ball.... coincidence ? or WT legal threats ?

  Anyway, IMHO if you’re going further, your will need some heavy press support with deep legal pockets.
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  North Texas Elders & MS

  by Sam Beli in

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  north texas elders:.

  i have it on good authority that you are meeting this weekend for instruction.

  ms too.

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  wheelwithinwheel

  elders in Canada spending the weekend together too - everyone gets the new light at the same time HAHAHAHHHAAAAAAA

  to give you insight into the world-shaking topics discussed - think of the annual special talk delivered worldwide from a manuscript that everyone had to attend with anticipation. A few hours later nobody could recall the subject