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  Apostasy Unforgivable?

  by professor in

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  do witnesses teach that apostasy is an unforgivable sin?.

  i was taught this by my parents.

  but, i am wondering if this is a jw doctine.

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  willy_think

  Oh no! My dad is screwed he was a catholic before his Apostasy. Too bad he wasn't told that before he converted.
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  If God Is Love...

  by Windchaser in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  and love is not jealous, and god is a jealous god, how can he be love?

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  willy_think

  2 Corinthians 11
  Paul and the False Apostles
  1I hope you will put up with a little of my foolishness; but you are already doing that. 2I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. 3 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ.

  Nahum 1
  1 An oracle concerning Nineveh. The book of the vision of Nahum the Elkoshite.
  The Lord's Anger Against Nineveh
  2 The Lord is a jealous and avenging God;
  the Lord takes vengeance and is filled with wrath.
  The Lord takes vengeance on his foes
  and maintains his wrath against his enemies.
  3 The Lord is slow to anger and great in power;
  the Lord will not leave the guilty unpunished.
  His way is in the whirlwind and the storm,
  and clouds are the dust of his feet.

  
  
  Exodus 20
  4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments.

  
  Exodus 34
  13 Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and cut down their Asherah poles. 14 Do not worship any other god, for the Lord , whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
  15 "Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices.

  
  
  Deuteronomy 4
  23 Be careful not to forget the covenant of the Lord your God that he made with you; do not make for yourselves an idol in the form of anything the Lord your God has forbidden. 24 For the Lord your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.
  25 After you have had children and grandchildren and have lived in the land a long time-if you then become corrupt and make any kind of idol, doing evil in the eyes of the Lord your God and provoking him to anger,

  Deuteronomy 6
  14 Do not follow other gods, the gods of the peoples around you; 15 for the Lord your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from the face of the land. 16 Do not test the Lord your God as you did at Massah.

  
  It seems to me that godly "jealousy" is a term used to express gods displeasure with the worship of pretend gods and it's consequences I believe jealousy to be not the nature of God but a human concept used to remind the Jews of one of the laws even the NT use points to this.
  "gods displeasure" lol there is my human concept I'm putting on God, but how can we talk about him without equating human concepts that's all we know.

  If it was meant to be taken literally Gods name would be Jealousy.
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  A question for believers in God

  by expatbrit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you believe in god, then i'll make the assumption that you think god is a force of "good", and his commandments reflect this "goodness.

  based on that assumption, would you say that god's commandments are good because: god commanding them makes them good?

  orgod has knowledge of the inherent goodness of certain commandments, and selects them because of this goodness?.

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  willy_think

  God is good and his commandments are good because they reflect this "goodness."
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  Reason vs. Faith, Good article

  by The_Bad_Seed in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is an article i dug up on the ayn rand institute website, written by peter schwartz that i found to be logical and timely, and felt some could benefit upon reading it.

  enjoy!

  reason vs. faith by peter schwartz.

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  willy_think

  http://www.catholic-pages.com/dir/link.asp?ref=17533
  a link to faith and reason.
  When I read the article I thought this isn't about the "faith and reason" i read, so i reread it and realized, the author has an agenda and is not being truthful with his comments. read it for your self.

  "Shroud of Turin was not the burial cloth of Christ, faith requires that you believe anyway."

  No. I have faith, I am universal Christian, I believe the shroud is not the burial cloth of Jesus. The church doesn't require me to believe it, or any other private devotion.
  
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  My B/F told me he's a J/W after months of dating!

  by Funky_Diva_53_2000 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  hi, i'm 17 and i've just recently become a member of this website and i want you to know what has happened to me over the past months.back in sep/oct 2001 i started chatting to a 20 year old bloke via the internet and we developed a great friendship over the net.we would talk online for ages,text and phone each other loads,we sent each other photos of ourselves and he would often put his webcam on for me to see.before i knew it he played a great part in my everyday life...and i spent so much time chatting to him that my college work suffered a lot & i wasn't doing my coursework (i eventually got told to leave as i hadn't done loads of the assignments and stuff & had fallen behind).

  after about 6 months we arranged to meet up (i made sure my parents were at home coz i know it's dodgy to meet people from the internet).anyway,he came round my house one evening in march and we got along soo well...he lives quite locally too which was good.our friendship then grew into a relationship and we started dating and going out together,i was sooo happy and i fell for him in a massive way & he said he felt the same way too.to me,he was a girls dream come true...he was kind,caring,fit,good-looking & gentle and i loved him to bits!,i still do,and i thought we'd be together forever.

  something that i did find a bit strange though was i hadn't met his family yet or heard my boyfriend talk much about them.i would question him about his family but he seemed to get a bit funny about it and when i mentioned about meeting his family he said something along the lines of ''they're a bit strange,you might not like them'' (or something like that anyway).that got me thinking and i though prehaps they lived in a run-down place or something,or they wern't very nice people and i thought my b/f could be ashamed to let me meet them.i thought to myself to give him time & he'll see that i'm an understanding & nice person and hoped that he would soon come out and tell me what the problem was (thinking it was about what i've just mentioned).

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  willy_think

  Hi,
  I'm sorry your in this situation, it a tight spot for sure. Your 17 and he's 20? when I was 20 I would never consider going out with a 17 year old girl. To my thinking something is not right there. I would advise getting out. When he comes back with his answer in a month, he'll probably try to string you along playing both sides.
  Good luck
  Bill
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  oral sex

  by lilpumpkin in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  would someone who was a jw all his life (24 years) know he's not suppose to be giving/receiving oral sex?

  is it possible he might not have heard about this rule?

  does it not apply if the person is disfellowshipped?

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  willy_think

  Yes he knows, it would impossible for him not to know at his age.

  Yes, it still applies even if he's disfellowshipped.

  Edited by - willy_think on 7 July 2002 22:37:13
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  Another J.W. Sucide

  by moman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  another one of god's wonderous creatures has taken her life, another j.w.

  sucide, how sad!.

  there will be those (mostly jw's) that say the borg had nothing to do with it & they may be right, but i doubt it.. her name, leah turnbull, formaly leah malik, of omaha nebraska, anyone know her?

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  willy_think

  I can't help but think that if these Witness found places like JW.com some would be alive today. Yes, there is a lot of bickering and some of us are shunned even here, but there is more compassion and understanding here then can be found in any hall.

  To the people who held up JW.com or silent lamb signs at the conventions, thank you, you may have saved a life.
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  WORLD TO END 2050 - women, poor hardest hit

  by Nathan Natas in

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  http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0 ,6903,750783,00.html .

  earth 'will expire by 2050' .

  our planet is running out of room and resources.

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  willy_think

  The title is Earth will expire in 2050, but the story is the earth will be fine, some people will expire. It's like a God d@m title of a WT article.
  what vanity man has that he thinks he can cause the death of a world. The earth will find balance with or without us.
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  With Whom Has God Been Patient

  by comforter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  god has been patient with evil in the world since the days of adam and eve.

  his day is not tarrying but is right on schedule.

  god, however, is presently showing patience and self-control, not only with the world of unbelievers but also with the congregation of his faithful witnesses.

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  willy_think

  They have many things to work on to try and get things right before the day of wrath.

  
  
  I'm curious, can you tell me what things the Witness have wrong, that may be made right?
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  What makes Jesus so special?

  by Sargon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been wondering, what makes jesus so different from the rest of creation that he is granted the title "son of god".

  if there was nothing before jehovah, all things are his creation and therefore should be on equal footing.

  for jesus to truly be his son, jehovah, would have had to have created a goddess to copulate with, thereby creating a proper male/female relationship from which to form an offspring.

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  willy_think

  3 special things about Jesus:
  1. Jesus is begotten, not made.
  2. Jesus is God.
  3. Jesus is the redeemer.

  Edited by - willy_think on 6 July 2002 13:39:15