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  What's Right about "Right?"

  by Farkel in

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  hang on, folks.

  if a) is true then god is arbitrary: anything he says is right, is right.

  so you admit that gods decisions are purely arbitrary?.

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  willy_think

  frkel,

  about the spelling i am dyslexic. i thought you were looking for formal logic were the terminalogy is established first, why did you feel the need to put me down?

  "you are trying to establish what is 'uppermost' the standard or god himself. does god follow the standard, making himself subordinate to it or does the standard follow god making him arbitrary and the concept of right basically meaningless?"

  "uppermost", most high = god
  
  how is that no logic

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  cult?

  by hannibal in

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  why does it matter if j/ws are clssifyed as a cult or not,sure thay are.but wasnt the foundation of cristianty a cult,12 following one man?

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  willy_think

  i would call truth, things as thay are,not any preseptin of things as thay are.

  the ideas and opinions expressed in this post do not necessiarly represent those of the WTB&TS inc. or any of it's subsidiary corporations.
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  What's Right about "Right?"

  by Farkel in

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  hang on, folks.

  if a) is true then god is arbitrary: anything he says is right, is right.

  so you admit that gods decisions are purely arbitrary?.

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  willy_think

  farkel,
  is all-powerful= to all other power? or is it all power?
  all-powerful+ all other power= grater that gods power
  all powerful, being all power from, by and of the all-powerful?

  all-present? god is all that is present?
  or god is present with all?
  if god is present with all then there is a "present" that is not god and therefor god is not ALL present?
  
  
  all-knowing is it = to all other knowlige
  or the knowing is all gods
  
  if god is all-powerful, no power outside of god then the words good and bad do not apply and to use them is to call god not- all- powerful but of grate-power
  
  i like your logic but to talk about it i will need to understand your tarms

  you say the given is god is all-powerful then you say that things happen outside of gods power. if i go with the given i can not go with the good/bad or of god not of god god being by the given the power of good/bad the presents of g/b the knowlige of g/b
  
  if you can see where i am going, maby you could define your turms

  the ideas and opinions expressed in this post do not necessiarly represent those of the WTB&TS inc. or any of it's subsidiary corporations.
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  Do you want them to leave?

  by comment in

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  tonight, memorial night, i was thinking about what some people have said about helping their families to see the "truth about the truth.".

  i've felt for some time that it may be preferable for my mother and father to remain witnesses, to be honest.

  my mother grew up with it, while my dad got involved in the late 1980's.

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  willy_think

  comment,

  "My personal position is that keeping my family intact is more important than making a statement about the Society or their teachings. So, though inactive, I'll do what's necessary to keep the lines of communication open,"

  i found, that showing my family more then thay were ready to see did have a devasting effect. as long as the linse of communication are open you still have a family and a chance.

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  Tonight's memorial. - The Point.

  by nicolaou in

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  the following tale will only take a few minutes to read.

  i strongly encourage you to take the time and see 'the point' for yourself.. .

  you begin to sign and then you see that the number of pints of blood to be taken is empty.

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  willy_think

  rabotnik,

  as to the background, well i read the frist post and i must admit it made me mad. to use that comparison of the father and sun at this time of year! it is a mental hell. the farther gives his son that the whole world might be saved!! see how he loves us. this is in contrast what the WTB&TS inc. teachs jehovah who will not save his good JWs through his sacrifice but makes them live as slaves to the WT. how can it be missed at least subconciously it is in your face YOU ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH to get the antidote..... well i was thinking of my father tonight at the KH, not good enough, being hit with this kind of bull sh*t left and right the poem just came off the top of my head continuing your post. but that is were i was at when it came to me

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  Evolutionists having to fight for the theory.....

  by Deacon in

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  evolutionists battle new theory on creation.

  by james glanz.

  salvatore c. dimarco jr. for the new york times .

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  willy_think

  that is the same logic thay use to say that the crop circles MUST be made by aliens. the same thay use to say that the pyrmids MUST be made by aliens, or a god.

  But they dispute the idea that natural selection, the force Darwin suggested drove evolution, is enough to explain the complexity of the earth's plants and animals. That complexity, they say, must be the work of an intelligent designer.

  
  
  so thay are telling me thay have a complete amd thorough understanding of all the different forces that come into play and have done the equations? why did thay stop at darwin?

  it is like saying the get plane is not possieble based on the wright brothers understanding of flight

  the evalutionary theory has come a long way since darwin

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  Tonight's memorial. - The Point.

  by nicolaou in

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  the following tale will only take a few minutes to read.

  i strongly encourage you to take the time and see 'the point' for yourself.. .

  you begin to sign and then you see that the number of pints of blood to be taken is empty.

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  willy_think

  one flew over the coo-coo's nest
  
  the day thay put him to rest
  we were 9 then 10 again
  another entered the looney bin

  one sings like a sparrow
  his mind must be norrow
  one sits and stares
  at empty chairs
  one speeks in rhyme
  all the time
  jack the ripper
  lost his slipper

  i know me not to be insane
  yet i fell this constant pain
  rutherford, russell
  you steal from me
  free my mind and let me be

  willy

  the ideas and opinions expressed in this post do not necessiarly represent those of the WTB&TS inc. or any of it's subsidiary corporations.
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  Tonight's memorial. - The Point.

  by nicolaou in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the following tale will only take a few minutes to read.

  i strongly encourage you to take the time and see 'the point' for yourself.. .

  you begin to sign and then you see that the number of pints of blood to be taken is empty.

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  willy_think

  i am standing in the parking lot with my son when the blood vaccine is finished my son said "daddy it's ok now!!! we will live!!" "no" i tell him "you can't have the vaccine. it contains blood cells and the WTB&TS inc. tells us not to take it. may jehovah keep you my son." i watch him die. "can you not see how much i love him"
  

  i thank god death is not the end

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  Poem

  by Introspection in

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  the journey by mary oliver.

  one day you finally knew.

  what you had to do, and began,.

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  willy_think

  "and there was a new voice that you slowly recognized as your own." thank you for the poem and your voice
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  HELLO? HELLO? "ALL" SIGN IN???????

  by waiting in

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  simon did away with the sex forum - so i must take the tradional route and post under "make new friends.

  " how mundane!.

  fyi ---- for all of us, please take the time to write a sentence or two about yourselves, and encourage new ones to do the same.

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  willy_think

  hi all, i'm 23 from Boston, i am not a JW but my dad and 2 brothers are. i can't talk with my dad and one of my brothers about the WT or cults or god or the weather or the time of day. this site is a god send. i feelt so alone, like i was yelling into the wind!! now here i am still yelling, but into the wind of change. i hope that you guys and girls can understand my frustration and know that i have no bad feelings towards active JWs, just the WTB&AS inc. heck, i love some active jws very much. that is why i come here. it may be a therapy of sorts. i gess it is a way to talk, listen and learn