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  Well, I have NEVER....

  by AGuest in

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  in all my almost 42 years... received so much attention... good and bad.

  never, i promise you.

  and truly... all ya'll... i am neither 'worthy'... nor 'deserving' of it... good... or bad.. have you all noticed just how many times the name "shelby" has been used in the past, say 24 hours?

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  Winston

  WHEN I READ SHELBY'S POST i KEEP ASKING MYSELF THIS QUESTION:

  I THINK IF jim jones WAS IN SHELBY'S SHOE RIGHT NOW HE'D PROBABLY SAY THINGS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO WHAT SHELBY NOW SAYS.

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  Guilty as Charged... I confess....

  by AGuest in

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  to the "inquisition" of these days... that is on jw.com... may you have peace.. because there seems to be a 'movement' to 'expose' me as false, and judge and condemn me as a 'jezebel' and more... i would hereby like to confess my 'sins' and 'errors'... and repent my actions/inactions... before you... and all onlookers... if you will permit me.

  thank you.. i confess... that i am a servant to the household of god, israel, and a slave of christ, by means of an anointing with holy spirit, which i received directly from the person of my lord, the son of god, jaheshua mischajah.. i confess... that i have been given the 'free gift' of holy spirit, in the form of hearing spirits, discerning inspired utterances, so that i hear not only the voice of my lord, the but voices of various spirits, so i am able to relate to others that hear, as well as those that do not hear... what the spirit says to the congregation.. i confess... that i have been freely given other 'gifts' of that same spirit, which gifts manifest themselves in me in various ways and which gifts i have not attempted to hide from anyone... man... or god.. i confess... that i have a love for my father and my lord to such an extent that i would subject myself to public humiliation, before all men, bear reproach now... and endure a 'torture stake' for the glory that awaits me, which glory i have nought but faith in, because i have heard of its certainty... and received my 'sealing'... directly from the one the promised such glory, my lord, the son of god, jaheshua mishajah.. i confess... that i have agreed to 'repay' my lord for his love and kindness... the undeserved kindness granted me... in the only way that i can... by obeying his voice and going to the household of god, those that go with them, and any others who are 'thirsting' and 'wishing'... and telling them that the same gifts and glories undeservedly afforded me... can be granted to them as well.. i confess... that as a true servant to the household of god, by means of undeserved kindness, i have been granted to know the fruit of my father's spirit that is love... for all of mankind... including my enemies.

  a love such it compels me to tell what i hear to those who wish to hear of it, even at risk to my own spirit... whether they hear... or they refrain.. i confess... that contrary to what is 'usual' among so-called professed 'christians' and 'anointed', i have not sought to compel people to follow me, or to join any church, religion or other institution of 'theology', and will not, but instead, have asked and spoken only that any who 'hear'... and any who wish to hear... hear... and follow the voice of the fine shepherd, my lord, the son of god, jaheshua mischajah.... i repent... that i am but mere flesh and blood, a woman, a 'foolish thing' and 'weaker vessel', so that i do not always have the strength to stand against the opposition facing me, although i have wished no harm, no evil, no malice toward any.. i repent... that at times my forehead is not as hard as flint, and my heart is not so protected so as not to feel fright when facing off with my adversary and his agents.. i repent... that i do not possess in me the gifts of the spirit that grant miracles, such that those who do not believe can have the 'scales' removed from their eyes so as to see the things 'unseen', things almost too glorious for me to utter... with their own eyes... rather than simply ask for and be granted the 'free gift' of holy spirit and see for themselves.... i repent... that i do not possess in me the 'perfect' love that would move me to not feel hurt and pain when derided and ridiculed, but be able to say to my father, as did my lord, "forgive them father, for they do not know what they do.

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  Shelby,

  You sound just like those pharisees that Jesus condenmed for makeing long pretentious prayers for everybody to hear.

  so sad

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  LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER

  by You Know in

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  perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.

  as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.

  since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.

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  Winston

  I forgot to say and give that letter to the GB.

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  LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER

  by You Know in

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  perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.

  as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.

  since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.

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  You Know,

  Change this first:

  If I am right, then the forum will donate $100 to the Watchtower Society along with a letter that I shall compose and sign with my real name. Deal?

  
  Why not change the Question to : If you're Wrong then you will compose a letter stating Who you are, and How you honestly feel about the GB and all their blunders that they have made including the Pedophile problem they now have.

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  Irate email

  by D wiltshire in

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  below is a email i received today.

  the person doen't know me except from i think randy watter web site where i post my appeal letter to the body of elders on which i left my email address.

  i never told her i wasn't df but she gets facts confussed alot.. anyway i sent the post on barbra anderson from our site to her you might find it interesting so i'm posting it below.. .

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  Winston

  Some please tell me what the Email address of Dateline is.

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  Matthew 25

  by Farkel in

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  when did we see you a stranger and receive you hospitably, or naked, and clothe you?

  he was talking about food, clothing, shelter and supplication to the least of the brothers.

  he could not be talking about anything else and here is why: could any human offer jesus spiritual food?

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  proplog2,

  I just want to say I also appreciate your fair mindedness. I don't recall your earlier posts but your last couple in this thread sound pretty fair and I salute you,(really)!

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  "AHA! AHA! OUR EYE HAS SEEN IT!"

  by You Know in

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  the question has always been, primarily: is jehovah really god?

  secondarily, the question has been: are jehovahs witnesses really jehovahs witnesses?

  or, perhaps worded differently: is the watchtower really the voice of christs appointed faithful and discreet slave of prophecy?

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  You Know,

  How can you say this:

  Not so. I recognize fully what's going on. I know more about what's wrong with the organization than any apostate. In fact, if the apostate knew what I knew they would drool venom over the possibilities.

  If you knew so much more about with wrong with the organization than we do you wouldn't still be a JW. I call on you to prove it.

  Anybody can make a statement like your's but it's just words that have no meaning if you can't prove it.

  Prove it!

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  Greenlees & Chitty -- Some Sources

  by AlanF in

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  posted on an email message board:.

  posted on an email message board:.

  posted recently to the h2o message board:.

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  Joelbear,

  I didn't beleive it either but that's the story he gave Callandros.

  But it shows how far people will go when under mind control.

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  Greenlees & Chitty -- Some Sources

  by AlanF in

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  posted on an email message board:.

  posted on an email message board:.

  posted recently to the h2o message board:.

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  Winston

  When I was an elder in a San Deigo, CA. congregation and we had a body of elder's meeting(1992 or 93) with CO called Callandros (Greek not sure if spelled correctly).

  He mentioned to the whole body how a brother in the circuit, roomed at bethel with some one high up in the organization and when he was sleeping the person had anal sex with him, while the brother claims he continued to pretending he was asleep and never turned him in.

  According to Callandros it only happened once and the brother (the one who committed the act) had died still in good standing with the WT.

  Don't know why he brought it up. What I could never see, is letting anyone do that to you no matter who the HELL he was.

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  Did Ray Franz write COC out of anger?

  by Brutus in

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  i asked my gf who is a jw but not an active one if she has ever read coc and she tells me she has and that his book was mostly lies about the organization and that's the reason he left was because he was tempted by a hooker and ended up sleeping with her.

  he told the elders what he did because he was looking for help and he ended up getting df.

  later he found out he ended up contract hiv.

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  Brutus,

  Since a good mariage is made by primarily, good communication, I would say you should keep bringing it up and see what happens. Better to find out now than after your married.

  If the two of you are going to be seriously effected by her being and you not being a JW then find this out now before its too late and your stuck with a bad decision.

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!