What if there's a lack of physical evidence, say perhaps he dumped the bodies in the ocean and says to the elder he asked for gods' forgiveness years ago but his conscience has been eating at him and would deny the allogation if ever confronted by the police. What would the elder or body of elders do in that senerio? Let it go? Have a JC meeting? Revoke privledges? Just curious. Maybe this would be more fitting.......Allen
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Coming Clean
by wokeup ini have a question.
if for instant bro.ingoodstanding comes to an elder and says he wants to confess a serious sin, and says " i raped and murdered 6 boys 15 years ago and they're buried in the backyard.
would the elder(s) report it to the police wether or not the bro.
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Coming Clean
by wokeup ini have a question.
if for instant bro.ingoodstanding comes to an elder and says he wants to confess a serious sin, and says " i raped and murdered 6 boys 15 years ago and they're buried in the backyard.
would the elder(s) report it to the police wether or not the bro.
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I have a question. If for instant Bro.ingoodstanding comes to an Elder and says he wants to confess a serious sin, and says " I raped and murdered 6 boys 15 years ago and they're buried in the backyard. would the elder(s) report it to the police wether or not the Bro. tearfully says he's asked god to forgive him? I pose this senerio in light of the various threads I've read on the pedophile issue.......Allen
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mindset is the same as hellfire doctrine...
by Richie injust an observation; when a witness decides to write the congregation that he or she does not want to be associated anymore for personal reasons, why is it that this person must be disfellowshipped?
or why is it that if someone makes an issue about a wrong in the congregation such as pedophilia, and this witness decides to officially warn the elders about this wrongdoing or suggest to contact the police, that this person must be disfellowshipped?.
get my drift???.
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You know the mindset,Incest,Rape,Murder, they're weaknesses of the "flesh" you can say you're sorry and be forgivin. To openly disagree with doctrine,thats unforgivable, you're a disease a virus to the "body" to be destroyed, you see, you don't forgive a disease ;)
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DISFELLOWSHIPPED RANSOM SACRIFICES
by Englishman ini posted yesterday regarding a df'd young lady who is attempting to get re-instated into her local congregation.. she doesn't believe a word that jw's teach.
when she is eventually re-instated, this lady will say goodbye to her relationship with her boyfriend, her dancing, even the clothes she wears will all have to go.
she will submit herself to the iron will of her elder father and attempt to enter her mothers tut-tut world of submissive sisterhood with its demure prissiness wrapped up between peter pan collar and ever longer skirts.. this lady is paying the ultimate price - her very self - to redeem her hostage family from its kidnappers.
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I've seen this play out too many times , the lost sheep came back to the 99 but don't think the Shepherd found 'em and the other sheep are mistreating her.
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Jesus' illustration of the Wheat & Weeds Ma...
by wokeup inthis question is addressed to those who still esteem and value gods' word.
those of us who were raised in the "trooth" we were taught that the "sons of the kingdom" pertained only to the "faithful slave".
in jesus' illustration of the end time harvest period, the angels separate the wheat from the weeds , distinguishing two distinct parties.
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Thank you outinfree and room215 for your responses,I feel the same way basically. I probably didn't make my question clear, I was asking an open question for those who were and are practicing JW, did this illustration raise any questions to you personally.The WBTS's two class teaching didn't fit in this simple illstration Jesus gave to his disciples and yet so many loyal to the Society seem to not have any problem with it.. ............Allen
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Jesus' illustration of the Wheat & Weeds Ma...
by wokeup inthis question is addressed to those who still esteem and value gods' word.
those of us who were raised in the "trooth" we were taught that the "sons of the kingdom" pertained only to the "faithful slave".
in jesus' illustration of the end time harvest period, the angels separate the wheat from the weeds , distinguishing two distinct parties.
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This question is addressed to those who still esteem and value Gods' Word. Those of us who were raised in the "trooth" we were taught that the "sons of the kingdom" pertained only to the "faithful slave". In Jesus' illustration of the End Time harvest period, the angels separate the Wheat from the Weeds , distinguishing TWO distinct parties. One being burned up and the other will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Never any mention of a 3rd party (Great Crowd).How did you rationalize the existence of the 'other sheep class" when you read this passage?..........Allen
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New to the Forum
by wokeup inhi to all in the forum.
i am new here and would like to briefly share how i arrived here.
i was born and raised a witness.i'm in my 40's and married.i had some doubts as regards to some docrinal teachings and changes in the 80's.
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Thanks outnfree,freedom of expression here is something I'm not used to. I have found so far a wide diversity of personalities from all around the globe and have learned alot already.
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Well, Howdy, Yall :).wanted to introduce myself
by Gimme3steps ini found this place, purely by accident, and have been very amazed, at all of these touching, personal revelations, that many are sharing, here.
i actually was doing a search, jus tryin to learn how michael jackson's appearance came to be so radically changed..(that's a whole nother topic, and i came away, feelin sorry for him, after all i read, but, another time ) and ran across this forum.
im 41, was "raised" in the truth, my mother and her whole side of our family are long time witnesses, my father converted when i was around 4 years old.
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Welcome to the forum! I'm new too .Stick around and you'll find alot encouragement and support here...Allen
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Blanket Bomb Or Snipe?
by hillary_step ini wish to open a thread on a bit of a controversial issue so belt-on the self control!
my question?
why do some of us attack jws as people and who are our real targets?.
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Hi Hillary, I found this thread quite thought provoking.As A newcomer to this forum I've appreciated the sincerity and candor made by various ones. For years I viewed apostates thru rose colored glasses.Words such as venomous,gangrene,spiritual death was drilled into me regarding talking to or reading anything from former members . I woke one day and realized my own thoughts would be considered apostate thinking. Thinking and drawing my own conclusions for a change that is.I find this forum refreshing for the simple fact that verbalizing free thought in the org is short lived. They make sure of that...........Allen
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New to the Forum
by wokeup inhi to all in the forum.
i am new here and would like to briefly share how i arrived here.
i was born and raised a witness.i'm in my 40's and married.i had some doubts as regards to some docrinal teachings and changes in the 80's.
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Nathan, I did spend 7 years both part-time and fulltime in college while living in Silicon Valley.Got a lot of flack from the Elders for not putting "spiritual things" 1st.Was "marked" by some in the congregation for it. It came with a price.But working for minimum wage in one of the most expensive parts of CA in the 70's and early 80's was awful, especially when most of the elders had high paying jobs with nice homes and pools encouraging me not to be pursuing higher education.