Posts by wokeup

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COMMENTS YOU WILL NOT HEAR AT THE WT STUDY - Maintain Joy In Times of Trouble

by Mary in

i'm doing the comments for blondie this week as i believe she and her hubby are on the road.

-read isaiah 63:9, 10.. once again i ask: if he feels so distressed and hurt, then why doesn't he do something about it?

at times, hannah was so discouraged that she would weep and not eat.

wokeup

Noticed Jesus got the usual token sentence- 'yes, like Jesus' (paragraph 2). And they call themselves 'christian'. They could have at least quoted

Mat.11:28-30. I see the holy spirit really at work here. Such a moving and uplifting article.

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so my wife who is an active sister got an "invite" to the dedication of the new hall in our town.. apparently it's a big deal 'cuz some big whig from krooklyn is coming to deliver a talk, yada yada yada.. my question, why spend the bucks to fly some old geezer out to the west coast for a building dedication?

is it not officially a kingdumb hall without his coming and having a big ceremony?.

just curious about your thoughts..

wokeup

I've found it interesting that the ancient civilizations' practice of dedicating public and religious edifices to their gods was not taught by Jesus.

A matter of fact, the precedent or command to even construct them is absent in the New Testament. To me that says alot.

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No where in the bible does it say that people will be raised from the dead...

by ex-perfectdaughter in

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Daniel 12:2 alludes to a resurrection but not specific on locality. I find it sad the watchtower leadership wants to 'spiritualize' this passage since it goes against watchtower doctine. "in the Bible, resurrection sometimes has a spiritual significance...a spiritual revival of Gods annointed servants in the time of the end...in 1919 they returned to life in a spiritual sense".

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Has the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" correctly foretold anything?

by donny in

one of the issues that really helped me open my eyes to the fallacy of the claims of the "faithful and discreet slave" class is that they have not been right on anything they said would happen in the future.

every instance of "new light" is simply a hindsight adjustment and their attempt to allign the beliefs with what actually is happening or already occurred.

when you examine all of their dates, and what was supposed to happen on them, as well as the generation of 1914 and the date of the sealing of the annointed, etc, etc, can you think of anything the f&ds has accurately foretold by means of "jehovahs" spirit.. don.

wokeup

Religion is a snare and a racket.

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Name Things Witnesses Do or Believe That Is Not "Scriptural"

by minimus in

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jehovah's witnesses pride themselves in believing that they alone are picked by god, jehovah god, specifically.

they say they are not part of the world and are unlike the false religions that are mired in their traditions.

i say they are liars!

wokeup

Insinuated that more than the 11 apostles were present on the mount of olives at Matt.28:16-19

Pay no heed to Acts 1:8, Gal.1:8, or Luke 21:8

Teach 'bible studies' that they do not belong to christ, only can be a companion of someone who thinks they do.

That Jesus has/needs a multimillion dollar publishing empire for sheeple to put their faith and allegiance.

What scripture states that 'companions' of the watchtower leadership have a 'commission'.

Secret elder tribunals

The bible and holy spirit cannot fully equip or direct a christian.

Organizational idolatry.

Giving preselected answers to preselected questions to preselected topics at preselected locations at preselected times reflects spiritual insight and godly wisdom in the sight of men.

Shaving Jesus for more years than he ever lived.

Claiming a Spiritual paradise that even the Apostles dared not claim.

Redefining the word loaded to 'pure' by placing Zeph.3:9 before verse 8 is fulfilled.

'Millions now living will never die'.

Unbaptized publishers.

Acts 2:38,39 no longer apply to christians.

Memorizing a laundry list of questions to qualify for a baptism of dedication.

They have already been judged.

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Your Favorite 1970's Music Groups/ Singers/ Songs ?

by flipper in

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in the 1970's i was a teenager.

i wasn't that big into disco- although i enjoyed kc and the sunshine band as well as earth, wind, and fire.

but my really big love in music was always rock n' roll, blues , stuff like that !

wokeup

Tower of Power- So Very Hard To Go ( loved the brass section)

Steely Dan- Reelin' In The Years (Elliott Randalls' guitar lead was awsome)

Grand Funk Railroad- Closer To Home (I feel they were too under-rated)

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Territory in Beverly Hills/LA and Celebrities

by nbernat in

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fs in certain residential areas is quite limited due to 'restrictions' but somehow jehovah's spirit prevails and blesses!.

pioneers on paper are quite common as are hefty donations to the society.. .

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Aude is right, the hired help is all you'll find, maybe.

I remember working in Atherton,CA in the 60's and came upon Shirely Temple Blacks' estate. Couldn't get past the gated driveway.

You have better chances bumping into someone famous at the airport or a resturant.

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The name "Jehovah's Witnesses" is NOT scriptural!

by Nathan Natas in

it is not infrequently that jehovah's witnesses make the statement that the name of their organization is "scriptural.

tony wills, in his book "a people for his name" makes an interesting point about the misrepresentation of that name as "scriptural" and the appropriateness of this name-change by the impostor "bible scholar" rutherford -.

[rutherford] showed the need of a new name by such texts as the following:.

wokeup

As I recall Isaiah 43:10 applied to a defunct religion, a nation rejected by God, guilty of Idolatry, man made rules and put their faith in their institutions and puffed up with their accumulated knowledge.

Replaced by something called Christianity.

Christians are under Jesus' admonition found at Acts 4:11 to be HIS witnesses to the most distant part of the earth.

Self evident in retrospect unfortunately unpercieved as a youth immersed in the rhetoric from infancy.

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Proof that WT literature is not needed...

by The Last Nephilim in

i have recently come to fully appreciate what is stated at 2timothy 3:16, 17 (nwt).

it clearly declares that nothing is needed outside of the bible in order for a person be be "fully competent" and "completely equipped" for "every good work".

how can anyone, especially the wts, claim that the bible alone is not enough after reading these scriptures?

wokeup

The WTBS has always functioned on the assumption that God's Word and Spirit are somehow inadequate and must be augmented with their spin using perhaps, most likely, undoubtly,surely, possibly in explaining bible events.

I have always felt the Bible (2 Tim 3:16,17) which fully equips and the Spirit (John 16:13) which is said to lead us into all truth are also undermined by stating conjecture (revealed truths) as factual especially when making blanket statements, unverifiable such as Jesus 1914 arrival and their 1918 'appointment' as 2 examples.

The leaders bear a heavier judgment in their self assumptions and demanding strict adherence and loyality at all costs for the appearance of an all knowing entity basking in 'divine favor' in a 'spiritual paradise'. This illusion has and continues quite addictive to many.

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Question about the memorial

by Amyfa in

as i am not a jw and never going to be one or study with one, can someone tell me what scripture they use to make everyone reject jesus.

it just feels to me like something satanic worshippers would do, not something christians would do.

it just seems so wrong to me

wokeup

For years the society applied this passage to those that claim to be going to heaven. Then in the 1986 Watchtower 2/15 pg. 30-31 Conseqently 'added research' revealed that Jesus spoke those words a year before the last supper.

'Logically', none hearing those words had any idea about an 'annual' celebration or literal symbols introduced at the passover a year later.

Thus it would have a broader application and include the 'great crowd' in a symbolic way but in a different symbolic way in reference to the last supper.

Make sense?