I went to San Jose City College and the was this guy named Bruce who would run alot at the track. I was surprised to see him in the '76 Olympics, the dude won the Decathlon. Come to find out his apartment was around the corner from mine overlooking the track.
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Have You Ever Seen Or Met Anyone Famous?
by minimus ini'm not talking about any gb members, either!.
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Have You Ever Seen Or Met Anyone Famous?
by minimus ini'm not talking about any gb members, either!.
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wokeup
In 1977 I took care of an old guy who broke his leg in San Jose in a car accident. He told me his son 'walked on the moon' over and over. I thought he was a bit delirious. He wasn't. His son came to see him and yep, sure enough I met the Apollo 15 astronaut. James Irwin.
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STOP MAKING CRAP UP!
by Sheep2slaughter ini had to start this thread in light of today's watchtower study.
in paragraph 14,15 they mention the grounds for separation.
no scriptures are sighted but i am well aware of the support they usually use.. i am so sick of the watchtower making crap up!
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wokeup
Regarding paragraph 14, who defines what 'extreme' physical abuse is? 3 punches, 10? 1 kick to the groin or 4? How about paragraph 15? Who's responsible for your 'absolute' spiritual endangerment? Who gets to define 'extreme' or 'absolute' who quantifies these prerequisites? Who left out the 'supportive' scriptural references to these words of wisdom?
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Bullet list of major (recent) changes
by RN init is with great interest that i recently read ceders article on the decline of the wts.
his article along with many of the comments really drives home just how many major changes there have been in a fairly short peroid of time.. somewhere in the recent past i could swear that someone had posted a bullet list of major changes with the corresponding year.
when i saw this (or something like it) my first thought was that this simple list made it all the more shocking; and since i have searched and cannot find anything like it.. so i dug around and started one of my own, please feel free to add/corrects events.
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Will Jehovah himself kill me, or will Jesus, Satan, or someone else?
by InterestedOne ini've heard people here say jw's believe that jehovah will slaughter non-members of the jw religion when armageddon comes any day now.
does the watchtower teach that jehovah himself will do the killing, or is it delegated to someone else like jesus, satan, angels, or humans killing each other?
who is the actual killer in the picture?
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Yesterday's WT
by tornapart inanyone who's still 'in' and went yesterday, how did it make you feel?.
before i went i read the passage of scripture from romans 7 and 8 in a couple of other translations bsides nwt.
beautiful and uplifting, how the spirit guides us and helps us overcome our imperfect nature.
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wokeup
The Watchtower leaders are so full of themselves denying the very Gift they themselves percieve to possess. It is by no accident
they bounced around the 8th chapter of Romans. The arguement is weakened and even distorted that Paul was making.
Their intentional ommitance of verses 9,10 speaks volumes. It would have reminded the adherents that they do not have Gods/Christ Spirit which is life and they are still dead in their trespasses.
Their doctrine leads the reader to think that somehow the GB had faith good enough to be chosen and ruling over God's earthly representation of his kingdom and their faith has them 'justified' in his sight. Everyone else just didn't cut the mustard or were born too late.
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Menlo Park (CA - USA) Kingdom Hall
by Juan Viejo2 ini received an anonymous email over at ex-jw.com that had an attached legal filing.
the first couple of pages seemed to be standard legal filings, but the rest of the pages looked like standard typed documentation (not in numbered double-spaced legal format.
) i'm not quite sure what to make of it, so wonder if anyone here has heard of it.
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wokeup
Conjuring up some old memories. I Remember the congregation servant lived off Valparaiso ave. in Atherton.
His daughter was a pioneer and went off to be a missionary. It was a fairly segregated city at the time.
On one side of the Bayshore was middle & upper classes. the east side, Belle Haven and East Palo Alto were crime ridden. It was built on landfill by the Bay.
As Mrs.Jones recalled correctly, the majority of members were black. Remember one sister had about 10 stairstep kids in the late 60's.
When the elder arrangement kicked in in 72. The majority of elders were white.
The hall was originally an unpretentious 2 story on a tiny lot with the Bayshore Freeway nearly in it's back parking lot. First stepped in it in '63.
Not too well lit. The uncarpeted floor made the sound system echo at times. Names Kafka, Filardo, Hart, Allen come to mind (forgive the spellin been near 40 years last I saw them.
The property value must be pretty high despite it's proximity to the Bayshore Freeway. With small older homes averaging a million plus in that area, the hall property is probably closer to the 2 million range.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 05-16-10 WT Study (LIVE UP DEDICATION)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 05-16-10 wt study (march 15, 2010, pages 14-18)(live up dedication).
review comments will be in red or headed by comments.
wt material from today's wt will be in black.
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wokeup
In Paragraph 1 after citing Acts 2:22,36,41 in reference to the 3,000 it says 'they would have'been baptised in water in the name of the Father, the Son and holy spirit'.
2 problems with this statement. First, they intentually omit verse 38 where Peter explicitly states they baptised in the name of JESUS.
Second, they omit caps on Holy Spirit.
There is no account in the bible where the disciples baptised in the name of the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit.
There are only 1 of four options here:
Matthew 28:19 is spurious.
The disciples understood that command to mean to baptise in Jesus name only.
They disobeyed Jesus.
The bible writers under inspiration 'forgot' to include that small detail.
Paragraph 2 infers the 3,000 baptised were not annointed like the 120, by comparing the 3,000 baptised to those baptised at their conventions and assemblies 'in the name of' strongly suggest they are insinuating there were 'other sheep' being baptised soon after Jesus death. If the watchtower writers indeed are trying to introduce this concept it most likely due to them wanting to reduce the number of annointed in Jesus' day to prop up there literal 'little flock' numbers.
Paragraph 3, the first sentence. There is no explicit NT teaching to support this view. Otherwise, the watchtower would plaster them all over their literature. This is simply injecting preconcieved ideas into the text. Also, Witnesses clearly do not baptise in the name of the Father, the Son and holy spirit'. The 2 baptism questions testify to that.
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Inside The Jonestown Massacre
by Bangalore ininside the jonestown massacre.. http://www.cnn.com/2008/us/11/12/jonestown.factsheet/index.html.
bangalore.
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wokeup
Oh yes, I remember all that. I was living in the Bay Area at the time Jones moved to SF and he became buddies with Moscone. He was some nut job. Never understood what people saw in him. And for Moscone to put him over the housing authority was just wrong. Moscone was taken out about a week or so after the mass killing took place if I remember correctly.