wokeup
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Dear watchtower bible and tract society, governing body, and all of your twisted teachings...
by OneDayillBeFree inafter today's watchtower study which was basically a mind controlling article about shunning your loved disfellowshipped ones, i've come to see just how sick, twisted, vile, rotten, repulsive, disgusting, and just plain evil you all are.
so i stormed out.
i don't know if i'll ever come back to your meetings again.
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Why do the Jehovah's Witnesses agree with certain beliefs and not others especially coming from someone they quote most often?
by I_love_Jeff inof course i am talking about tertullian.
i presented this topic to jehovah's witnesses one time and they were not able to clearly explain why.
tertullian held certain beliefs contrary to the jws but there are some things the jws do agree with and often quote them in their articles.
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wokeup
This hypocritical practice is one of the main points I brought out to the elders many years ago when I stepped aside.
Quoting from theologians and secular sources to support and give weight to watchtower arguements was wrong
if the sources are concurrently taught as being wordly or under satanic inspiration. This fact is undeniable. (and remains so).
I told them I could not in good conscience teach anymore as long as this was practiced.
I felt this was the safest explanation since it did not call into question doctrinal teachings
specifically. My request to step aside was granted. A special needs talk followed shortly after about questioning Jehovahs
'appointed channel' and 'independant thinking'. Imagine that.
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Have You Ever Seen Or Met Anyone Famous?
by minimus ini'm not talking about any gb members, either!.
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I went to San Jose City College and the was this guy named Bruce who would run alot at the track. I was surprised to see him in the '76 Olympics, the dude won the Decathlon. Come to find out his apartment was around the corner from mine overlooking the track.
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Have You Ever Seen Or Met Anyone Famous?
by minimus ini'm not talking about any gb members, either!.
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wokeup
In 1977 I took care of an old guy who broke his leg in San Jose in a car accident. He told me his son 'walked on the moon' over and over. I thought he was a bit delirious. He wasn't. His son came to see him and yep, sure enough I met the Apollo 15 astronaut. James Irwin.
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STOP MAKING CRAP UP!
by Sheep2slaughter ini had to start this thread in light of today's watchtower study.
in paragraph 14,15 they mention the grounds for separation.
no scriptures are sighted but i am well aware of the support they usually use.. i am so sick of the watchtower making crap up!
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wokeup
Regarding paragraph 14, who defines what 'extreme' physical abuse is? 3 punches, 10? 1 kick to the groin or 4? How about paragraph 15? Who's responsible for your 'absolute' spiritual endangerment? Who gets to define 'extreme' or 'absolute' who quantifies these prerequisites? Who left out the 'supportive' scriptural references to these words of wisdom?
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Bullet list of major (recent) changes
by RN init is with great interest that i recently read ceders article on the decline of the wts.
his article along with many of the comments really drives home just how many major changes there have been in a fairly short peroid of time.. somewhere in the recent past i could swear that someone had posted a bullet list of major changes with the corresponding year.
when i saw this (or something like it) my first thought was that this simple list made it all the more shocking; and since i have searched and cannot find anything like it.. so i dug around and started one of my own, please feel free to add/corrects events.
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Will Jehovah himself kill me, or will Jesus, Satan, or someone else?
by InterestedOne ini've heard people here say jw's believe that jehovah will slaughter non-members of the jw religion when armageddon comes any day now.
does the watchtower teach that jehovah himself will do the killing, or is it delegated to someone else like jesus, satan, angels, or humans killing each other?
who is the actual killer in the picture?
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Yesterday's WT
by tornapart inanyone who's still 'in' and went yesterday, how did it make you feel?.
before i went i read the passage of scripture from romans 7 and 8 in a couple of other translations bsides nwt.
beautiful and uplifting, how the spirit guides us and helps us overcome our imperfect nature.
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The Watchtower leaders are so full of themselves denying the very Gift they themselves percieve to possess. It is by no accident
they bounced around the 8th chapter of Romans. The arguement is weakened and even distorted that Paul was making.
Their intentional ommitance of verses 9,10 speaks volumes. It would have reminded the adherents that they do not have Gods/Christ Spirit which is life and they are still dead in their trespasses.
Their doctrine leads the reader to think that somehow the GB had faith good enough to be chosen and ruling over God's earthly representation of his kingdom and their faith has them 'justified' in his sight. Everyone else just didn't cut the mustard or were born too late.
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what do jws have to say when getting baptised ? do they dedicate to god and jesus or the watchtower ?
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Menlo Park (CA - USA) Kingdom Hall
by Juan Viejo2 ini received an anonymous email over at ex-jw.com that had an attached legal filing.
the first couple of pages seemed to be standard legal filings, but the rest of the pages looked like standard typed documentation (not in numbered double-spaced legal format.
) i'm not quite sure what to make of it, so wonder if anyone here has heard of it.
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wokeup
Conjuring up some old memories. I Remember the congregation servant lived off Valparaiso ave. in Atherton.
His daughter was a pioneer and went off to be a missionary. It was a fairly segregated city at the time.
On one side of the Bayshore was middle & upper classes. the east side, Belle Haven and East Palo Alto were crime ridden. It was built on landfill by the Bay.
As Mrs.Jones recalled correctly, the majority of members were black. Remember one sister had about 10 stairstep kids in the late 60's.
When the elder arrangement kicked in in 72. The majority of elders were white.
The hall was originally an unpretentious 2 story on a tiny lot with the Bayshore Freeway nearly in it's back parking lot. First stepped in it in '63.
Not too well lit. The uncarpeted floor made the sound system echo at times. Names Kafka, Filardo, Hart, Allen come to mind (forgive the spellin been near 40 years last I saw them.
The property value must be pretty high despite it's proximity to the Bayshore Freeway. With small older homes averaging a million plus in that area, the hall property is probably closer to the 2 million range.