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  Trust governing body and no one else?

  by haujobbz in

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  what prompted me to post this was that i was inspired by sleepys last post when he said are you a black sheep in your family now,i got to say that i suppose i am,but what really gets to me is that they trust 11 old men in brooklyn who they never have met and even bet there life on them,but when you or me who are family try to advise them they just class your opinion as void or untrustworthy,what a load of c@ap.. i wonder why they trust these old men so much,maybe all the so called superior wisdom impresses them,or maybe because i am young and inexperienced (not),they just see me as someone who is lesser or lacking in wisdom or grey hair lol.

  "please rewind my mind so i can be blind again"

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  haujobbz:

  what a load of C@ap .

  It's okay to say/type crap in its entirety. Not a bad word like some of the others that I've used in some of my posts. Sorry Simon, but anger stirs emotions.
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  My blood boiled at WT comment read on CNN

  by writerpen in

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  i was going along fine with my glass of ice tea, my cat sitting next to me as bill and the two young ladies were being interviewed.

  i even made it okay through the first section of the wt comment that, "we abhor molestation..." but when chung got to the part of their comment that said something to the effect of "we provide counseling and emotional support to victims," i nearly spilled my tea on my cat.

  i replayed this segment alot, and noticed that the reaction of bill and the two ladies to that section was that they were just as shocked as i was.

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  BluesBrother -

  how is a middle aged manual worker to know how to relate to a young girl in such a dreadful situation?

  They try to relate to her by having her sit in front of three big ugly men in suits and asking her what she was wearing, where she touched the man, what did she say to the man, if she screamed, etc. This topic really gets me angry. Thus, the wonderful feeling I get when I see this issue popping up all over the media world.
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  My blood boiled at WT comment read on CNN

  by writerpen in

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  i was going along fine with my glass of ice tea, my cat sitting next to me as bill and the two young ladies were being interviewed.

  i even made it okay through the first section of the wt comment that, "we abhor molestation..." but when chung got to the part of their comment that said something to the effect of "we provide counseling and emotional support to victims," i nearly spilled my tea on my cat.

  i replayed this segment alot, and noticed that the reaction of bill and the two ladies to that section was that they were just as shocked as i was.

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  I'll never forget how the elders prided themselves as they said, "the society has trained elders" to deal with these situations. At least when I was speaking with them about my physical abuse, and the sisters about the sexual abuse, they prided themselves on that lie. But when I finally did get the PROFESSIONAL help I needed from a skilled therapist, I started to heal. We met last night, and she agrees that things are moving along quickly. A Witness my whole life, and never did I get the attention and concern that I needed. I waited on Jehovah, and waited, and waited, and waited, and the whole time messing my life up through bulimia and stealing. Now that I'm out and getting the help I need, life is clean and heavenly. That small comment made by the WTBS has irritated me to no end, because how untrue that is. If "wait on Jehovah" and "don't tell anyone" is their idea of emotional support, then God help them and all those in their control.
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  Connie Chung Clip Here...

  by Goodboy in

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  [i was gonna title this thread "everybody lamb-chung tonight", but i thought it might be in bad taste...].

  i digitized the segment and posted it at the link below.

  it's 7mb, but if you have windoze, it should stream to you (meaning you can watch it while it downloads).

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  I would suggest you leave it up. You can never have it posted enough places.
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  My blood boiled at WT comment read on CNN

  by writerpen in

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  i was going along fine with my glass of ice tea, my cat sitting next to me as bill and the two young ladies were being interviewed.

  i even made it okay through the first section of the wt comment that, "we abhor molestation..." but when chung got to the part of their comment that said something to the effect of "we provide counseling and emotional support to victims," i nearly spilled my tea on my cat.

  i replayed this segment alot, and noticed that the reaction of bill and the two ladies to that section was that they were just as shocked as i was.

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  I was going along fine with my glass of ice tea, my cat sitting next to me as Bill and the two young ladies were being interviewed. I even made it okay through the first section of the WT comment that, "we abhor molestation..." But when Chung got to the part of their comment that said something to the effect of "we provide counseling and emotional support to victims," I nearly spilled my tea on my cat. I replayed this segment alot, and noticed that the reaction of Bill and the two ladies to that section was that they were just as shocked as I was.

  I guess I had already heard the "we abhor abuse" crap, but this added feature to the comment was exceptionally "horrific." I never went to the elders about my sexual abuse by a brother, but I did go to them about the physical and emotional abuse dished out to my brother and I. And later, I turned to several sisters about the sexual abuse. The attitude was never about providing me with counseling and support but always, "get over it," "wait on Jehovah," "keep yourself clean," "don't bring reproach on Jehovah," "be VERY careful about seeig a therapist," "the elders are trained to help abuse victims," "the society lovingly provides comfort through the pages of the Watchtower," etc. To this added comment from the WTBS and the lack of emotional support I received (actually having been deemed a bad example by the elders when I came forward with the physical abuse, I'll never forget it as the elder said, "you can no longer aux. pioneer because the body of elders feels you are a bad example in the cong for having said what you did about your father.") - to all this I say with a resounding voice:

  BULL SHIT!
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  Where You "overlooked" for Cong. Priv...

  by stevieb1 in

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  picture the scene:.

  you are a young single brother with no other jw family members.

  you manage to tot up 90hrs a month in "field service";spend five hours per week preparing your watchtower for the study, however you are not an extremely extrovert person and don't try to "impress" the elders and the co. it seems though that this "spiritual" person never seems to be appointed as a ms or an excesively long time passes by before he does become such.

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  I can relate to having witnessed this during my JW tenure. As a sister, I kissed ass to get little "demonstration" parts on the meetings and even had one on an assembly. But there were harder workers than me that never got any recognition or praise. It's in who you know and how much ass you kiss.
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  Connie Chung Tonight: Bill Bowen or not?

  by writerpen in

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  on cnn tv

  cnn program schedule

  connie chung tonight:

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  Thanks for the info RudyTuesday.
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  August KM Fall Out

  by writerpen in

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  i'm curious to know if anyone has noticed different behavior from their dub family and friends since the aug. km about disfellowshipped ones.

  i've noticed that my mother is no longer emailing me, nor is she responding to my emails.

  i really wish that she would just come out directly and state that she will no longer talk to me instead of just ignoring everything, thinking i will go away.

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  bluesapphire - by inviting who you want without telling other invited guests, means that you are controlling your life and not allowing the WTBS to dictate how you should act. Therefore, go for it! Make sure though, that you are mentally and emotionally prepared to have people leave your home in a rant - because the Witnesses will. As long as you are up to it, I say, you call the shots and let the chips fall where they may.

  blacksheep - thanks for your views. I agree whole-heartedly.
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  August KM Fall Out

  by writerpen in

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  i'm curious to know if anyone has noticed different behavior from their dub family and friends since the aug. km about disfellowshipped ones.

  i've noticed that my mother is no longer emailing me, nor is she responding to my emails.

  i really wish that she would just come out directly and state that she will no longer talk to me instead of just ignoring everything, thinking i will go away.

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  witchywoman,

  I've been in therapy for several years now, and about two months ago I had this great awakening - I finally felt within me what it would be like to leave my dysfunctional family behind and move on with my life. And I must admit, it felt like a weight had been lifted off of me and nothing but wonderful prospects are ahead. Not being tied down to worrying about my family and what they will think of me and if they will talk to me and what I need to do to make them like me, is a release that I cannot explain. This release has also included non-JW family members whose views are nothing but that of bigots. I was always afraid of being left behind by them if I pursued my hearts desires, whether that be marrying a black man, living a lesbian lifestyle, spending most of my spare time with the homeless (can you believe they don't like me "hanging" out with the homeless), pursuing the career I want to pursue, etc. And in feeling this relief and understanding that I don't need them, I have left them behind and freed myself.
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  August KM Fall Out

  by writerpen in

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  i'm curious to know if anyone has noticed different behavior from their dub family and friends since the aug. km about disfellowshipped ones.

  i've noticed that my mother is no longer emailing me, nor is she responding to my emails.

  i really wish that she would just come out directly and state that she will no longer talk to me instead of just ignoring everything, thinking i will go away.

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  larc -

  My wife did tell my sister that if she took a hard stand again because of something in the literature, that we were done with her.

  That's great. I think too many that leave the organization allow the WTBS to have control in family situations. By your wife stating the above, you and she have complete control and demonstrate that the WTBS is not going to control the situation. And if your sister does stop talking to you as a result of this KM, then I would be "done with her," and continue with your life. This is the stand I'm trying to develop with my parents. Thanks for the advice that shines through in sharing your story.