what a blast!.
it was sooooooooooooo goooooooooooooooood to be there.
anyone who was there that wouldn't mind having pix posted, let me know so i can post some more.
OH...MY...GOD...
Drunken Revelry...
Public (half) Nudity...
NO CHAPERONES!!!
Everything the org said was true! When you leave, you descend into sin and vice!!!
......
...where can I sign up???
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
http://www.saunalahti.fi/~garon2/bombgame/.
what has the world come to when such games exsist!
my record is 5 dead 1 injured.. (prepares to get yelled at for dark humor)
Hey, I just got a 5 dead, 3 injured!
Hurray! I guess...wait....
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
http://www.saunalahti.fi/~garon2/bombgame/.
what has the world come to when such games exsist!
my record is 5 dead 1 injured.. (prepares to get yelled at for dark humor)
Hmmm...I'm skeptical gsx...highest I can get is 5 dead, 2 injured....
Well, like they say, if at first you don't succeed brilliantly, suicide bombing ain't your thing.
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
please distribute freely to press.. silentlambs.
tuesday, may 7. .
jehovah's witnesses begin excommunicating child sexual abuse whistleblowers .
Seeker, you are a little optimistic.
You are forgetting - the org WANTS to be persecuted. It is how they keep members - by convincing them they are in the end of the system of things.
I honestly expect a 'new light' article to come out very soon that explains that the world political systems turning on babylon the great doesn't neccessarily mean utterly destroying her (as was once thought), but instead just calling her members into court to question their religious policies.
See, then, the watchtower coming under fire for the same problems would be fullfilment of the prophecy regarding the world's religions being turned on, then 'gods one, true religion'.
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
i have been walking around with a sticker on my chest that announces to the world that i acted on my civic responsibility and voted today.
i have to admit that i am feeling a bit vulnerable and fighting the impulse to rip it off.
there were two issues on the ballot however that i felt it important to support.
I guess this would be as good a thread as any...
Any more people here vote?
I think it'd help newly free members to see how to register, how the voting process works, etc.
The WTBTS tends to drill fear into people that the voting booths somehow drain your soul out, or have pointy needles with tainted blood on them or something.
IE., that they are an EVIL and SCARY place.
Comments to the contrary build courage.
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
http://www.arizonarepublic.com/arizona/articles/0502montini02.html .
the prayers of a smart aleck are answered .
dear god,.
Hitler might have USED religion, but he was not religious
He said that he believed it was god's will to wipe out the Jews, and he thought it was god's will to return Germany to a powerful nation again.
He proceeded to act on what he perceived was god's will.
That makes him religious. That you find his actions he initiated under the banner of god's will objectionable is fine and dandy, but does not change the fact that he believed he was doing god's will.
Just as the Inquisitors believed they were doing god's will doing the Inquisition, and the US believed it was doing god's will driving the heathen Indians from their homes to make way for good, Christian, settlers. Or, for that matter, that those same Christians through the ages thought they were doing god's will by burning witches and heretics at the stake!
Mao did NOT believe in God, he persecuted those who did
This goes against my research. Kindly point me in the direction of something that indicates Mao specifically targetted religious people for persecution.
Near as I could find, Mao targetted those who opposed his communist state, regardless if they believed in god, evolution, or the great blue smurf.
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
http://www.arizonarepublic.com/arizona/articles/0502montini02.html .
the prayers of a smart aleck are answered .
dear god,.
How was he a good Catholic? His actions refute his tongue
However, he claimed to be a good Catholic his entire life - and he was never excommunicated.
Further, his book 'Mein Kampf' in which he details the Jewish menace, was never placed on the Catholic Index Liborum Prohibitorum (Index of Prohibited Books, IIRC).
(The same index which contained thousands of entries, including such useful things to prohibit as 'The Hunchback of Notre Dame', the writings of Galileo and Copernicus, and the Bible - but no 'Mein Kampf' - and yes, it was published up until 1966, so the Catholic Church had plenty of time to ban 'Mein Kampf')
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
http://www.arizonarepublic.com/arizona/articles/0502montini02.html .
the prayers of a smart aleck are answered .
dear god,.
Look, I just pulled three quotes off of the first site that Google listed for the query 'Hitler' and 'god' - there are dozens of sites, hundreds of quotes.
It's safe to say Hitler was claiming god's support all the way through World War II.
I was merely refuting Yeru's implication that those who did not invoke a deity in their atrocities have committed worse crimes against humanity than those who do.
The entire point of the initial piece was that events and support is attributed to a divine being when it is completely arrogant and wrong to presume so.
(Assuming one believes in a supreme divine being, anyway - if not, and I don't - then the whole point is moot, they could be thanking Grandpa Smurf for all I care)
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
gen 2:17 - god says: eat from the tree of knowledge of good and bad and you will absolutely die!.
gen 3:5 - satan says: god knows that in the very day of your eating from it your eyes are bound to be opened and you are bound to be like god knowing good and bad.. .
so what happen?.
LOL @ Fark!
I never even thought of that, of course it's true (according to scripture, anyway)!
Let's see, what implications could there be of that...hmmm....
CAIN: (to himself) My brother is SO irritating, I gotta do something about him, but what....hmmmmm.....
{Cain walks around a bit - absent-mindedly walking in front of old garden entrance}
ANGEL: HALT!
CAIN: (looks up at angel)(to himself) HEY! What's that spinning thing you got there? That looks pretty handy, wonder if I can make one of those!?!?
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
http://www.arizonarepublic.com/arizona/articles/0502montini02.html .
the prayers of a smart aleck are answered .
dear god,.
Heh.
Nice try Yeru, but:
“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.”( Adolf Hitler, from John Toland [Pulitzer Prize winner], Adolf Hitler, New York: Anchor Publishing, 1992, p. 507. )
“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 65. )
“And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exploited.”I cannot comment on Stalin, he was an atheist to the best of my findings.( Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered at Munich, April 12, 1922; from Norman H. Baynes, ed., The Speeches of Adolf Hitler: April 1922-August 1939, Volume 1, Oxford University Press, 1942, pp. 19-20. )
Chairman Mao believed in God, but I cannot find any record that he thought God supported his actions - in fact, he at least once indicated that he knew God frowned on them.
I think you'll find, overall, that atrocities committed in the name of a divine being FAR outweigh those committed by atheists. (Atheism as a major movement is, after all, a fairly recent phenomenon)
Xander F
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Ohio order)A fanatic is one who, upon losing sight of his goals, redoubles his efforts.
--George Santayana
