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  France & Germany Take the Same Stance

  by MrMoe in

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  http://www.cnn.com/2003/world/meast/01/22/sproject.irq.schroeder.chirac/index.html

  france, germany stand firm on iraq.

  wednesday, january 22, 2003 posted: 12:20 pm est (1720 gmt).

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  Xander

  Back not so long ago, there was a Jewish family, just like yours, that was gassed by the nazis

  Primary difference, of course, was that most Jews gassed by Hitler were GERMAN Jews. The above quote is a better example of why we should be afraid of OUR OWN elected government as it takes more and more civil liberties from us to fight some nebulous enemy that is a 'threat to our national security' somehow (remember, Hitler WAS elected).

  Again, Saddam has not the means, nor the motive, to conquer the world. He isn't interested in doing that - just getting the Western influence out of the region. Hell, we even get most our oil from Canada and Venezuala, and Russia is developing oil very quickly (and could use our money) - we don't even NEED to be involved in the middle east, and they don't WANT us to be.

  Why don't we just leave?

  Oh, wait, that's right - because we have 'invested' so much there.
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  France & Germany Take the Same Stance

  by MrMoe in

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  http://www.cnn.com/2003/world/meast/01/22/sproject.irq.schroeder.chirac/index.html

  france, germany stand firm on iraq.

  wednesday, january 22, 2003 posted: 12:20 pm est (1720 gmt).

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  Xander

  We cannot allow another freak to gain power like Hitler

  Do recall that Hitler was even only able to take over most of Europe, hardly the world. And that was with the help of Italy, and Japan distracting both the US and Russia. Saddam has no allies. And Iraq, as a nation, is not as industrialized as even Germany, let alone Germany, Italy, and Japan.

  And while also many horrible things, Hitler was, for a while, a fairly brilliant tactician and politician. Can anyone say that about Saddam?
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  France is a "Pain in the Ass"

  by JH in

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  i changed my topic to this:.

  why does france always go against britain and us policies?

  should we still consider france as an ally?

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  Xander

  The problem with the case for war is the assumption that if Iraq DOES have WMD, he will use them against the entire world, because he is some kind of megalomaniac or something. Which is just silly.

  There are only 4 people who have made a good attempt at leading their country to world control:

  • Genghis Kahn
  • Alexander the Great
  • Napolean
  • Hitler

  Now, who here seriously thinks Saddam is the equal of any of them? And even at their best, none of them ever got more than a continent!

  Yes, Saddam wants WMD to 'protect' his interests (and they may include control over more of the region than he has now). Why is this an OK motive for the US but not Saddam?

  The hawk answer is "well, because that will just be his first step to taking over the world!". Yeah? Says who? Why does everyone IMMEDIATELY think as soon as someone opposes the US, it's only because they want to take over the entire world and make everyone their slaves or something? (The reason, of course, is because we instinctively attribute to others our own motives. That IS what the US is trying to do with out WMD and military power - bully the rest of the world into being our 'friends' and ever expand US control and power, hence US citizens simply ASSUME that is what every other nation is doing to.)

  Saddam wants the US to stop meddling in the Middle East. Period. That's ALL he wants. He doesn't want to 'take over the world'. He doesn't want to exterminate everyone not Muslim. He doesn't want to kill you and your family. Indeed, he really doesn't CARE about you and your family, he's on the OTHER FRIGGIN SIDE OF THE PLANET.

  Edited by - Xander on 22 January 2003 16:13:33
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  Poll: Which Witch is Better?

  by gsx1138 in

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  ok, i stole this idea off the infidels.org forums.. sabrina the teenage witch?.

  the charmed women?.

  willow rosenburg?.

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  Xander

  True, Dark Willow did kick ass especially much.

  Tell the truth, I think I liked the Season 1 (or two?) 'Evil Willow' best (from the universe created by Cordelia's wish). Dunno, that goth look on her....*whew*

  (And as to power? Well, she almost destroyed the earth once, and fought a god to a standstill several times...on her own. I think that counts pretty high for 'power')
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  Strangest thing you were called on the carpet for.

  by Icansaylucky in

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  i would like to hear some of the strangest or most ridiculous thing you got in trouble with the elders for.

  here is mine.. back in the early 70's i was married at the age of 18, typical witness thing to do.

  my husband who was 6 years older than i ruled me like a overly strict father.

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  Xander

  Don't know how my mom did it, but she managed to get my brother and I hauled 'in the back' for fighting too much. It's not like we ever broke anything, or used weapons or anything. I mean, two brothers. Three years apart. We fought, c'mon, what do you want?

  Well, she thought it should stop, so in the back we went. 2 Brothers conducting the meeting and everything. Didn't really pay much attention at the time, but I'm LOLing now - they not only bitched my bro and I out for being a 'bad example' or 'not showing brotherly love' or 'conduct not befitting a christian' (keep in mind we were, like, 9 and 12 respectively) oh no - they ALSO bitched out mom for not controlling us. She just sat there and took it. Agreeing with them the whole time 'No, you're right, I should be able to control them better', blahblahblah.

  Nauseating when you think back.
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  Hope this comic hasn't been shared already...

  by truthseekers2 in

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  hubby and i are going through a very stressful time right now.

  the cards are falling all around us and we are now receiving word from family and "friends" that we are no longer welcome in their lives even though we have not shared any views with anyone but our parents, nor have we formally disassociated ourselves.

  hubby found sunday's "non sequitur" comic very ironic and i thought you all may enjoy it.

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  Xander

  LOL - yes, that was in our Sunday paper. I LOVE it, was going to clip it...

  Cool finding it online.
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  Post your Desktop!

  by pr_capone in

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  time to show off how clean you keep your desktop!!!!!!

  !.

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  Xander

  My work desktop. It's multi-monitor, so I had to size it down quite a bit. XP Pro.
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  Poll: Which Witch is Better?

  by gsx1138 in

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  ok, i stole this idea off the infidels.org forums.. sabrina the teenage witch?.

  the charmed women?.

  willow rosenburg?.

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  Xander

  Oh, c'MON, *Willow*, duh.

  The CHARMED girls?
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  Wiccan interested virus author jailed

  by frogit in

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  good a last someone who causes mayhem by writing computer viruses has been jailed, but notice this guy has a interest in wiccan religion.. "another message aluded to vallor's interest in an ancient british pagan religion, which read: "bide ye the wiccan laws ye must, in perfect love and perfect trust.

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2678773.stm.

  thought you all would be interested in this, as we have had a few wiccan posts hear.. .

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  Xander

  Read the article again - the 'Wiccan' reference was only in one of the message headers, used to get people to read the email attachment carrying the virus.
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  Drug War Blaspheme

  by Ransford in

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  posted to: http://forums.crosswalk.com/[email protected]^[email protected].

  i would appreciate getting opinions on the scriptural status of drug prohibition.

  is there any evidence that the early christians had any prohibitions against using drug plants?

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  Xander

  Alcohol Prohibition put nationally organized crime in business. Repealing Prohibition did not end the Mafia et al, but it did cause a tremendous reduction in organized crime of every kind. The murder rate dropped for 14 straight years after repeal.

  True enough, and I had not considered the parallel. Perhaps a valid argument.

  However, consider...

  Alcohol prohibition lasted little more than a decade all told. The ban on OTC narcotics in the US is now 90 years old. The gangs and cartels have had MUCH more time to get entrenched than the mafia did - and look how long THAT's been able to stick with us even given the 13 year 'head start' prohibition lasted.