Wow, who says you don't have to give the wife expensive gifts??? That must be from 1st Miser 6:1 a rather obscure text that I seem to have forgotten.
I ate my first Taco at an assembly, how bout that for a good memory.
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Advantages of being a JW
by ISP inclearly there is a great deal of anti-jw sentiment here and elsewhere for that matter.
such feelings are generally directed at those at the heart of the organisation and there are no such feelings for the rank and file who are often very genuine people.. in actual fact there are some advantages in being a fully loaded jw and to be fair it would be interesting to note them down.
they can be factual or whimsical or both.
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Can You Believe THIS?
by LDH infrom the jw-media site http://www.jw-media.org.
::::do you believe that you are the only ones who will be saved?.
many millions who have lived in centuries past and who were not jehovah's witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life.
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larc, you couldn't be more wrong. I've lived it believe me. I remember when seven fellow pioneers sat around a table and told me I was essentially an apostate because I didn't believe 1975 was of any special significance. Not one of them remembered that conversation two years later. I remember when an elder told me I was a fool for pursuing an education because the system was going to end in a very short time. I told all those people to take a flying leap, nicely of course. It's amazing what you can get by with if you're polite. If you've never met a JW or X JW with views like mine then you've just been hanging around with the wrong people:{)
Sassenach, I'd have to do some research to give you an accurate answer to your question and right now I don't have the time. Deadlines pressing, people clamoring for my attention and highly skilled assistance, you know how it is. Going to be completely tied up for the next couple of days, maybe this weekend.
Just read your questions again. I believe you'd have to nail down the definition of 'before,' I suppose if that means immediately before, that's one thing and if it means a while before, that means something else. I wonder how many angeles can dance on the head of a pin.
If I make someone think that really makes my day. Thanks guys.
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Hey 'empty' say summat !
by ISP inanyone got any thing out of 'empty' in the chat room recently.
i was there for hours and nothing!.
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Lighten up dude!
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A Time to Make Changes
by waiting inthnx-thnx!!!plzreadthis!!
h20 post.
posted by seeker4 [seeker4] on january 27, 2001 at 18:02:08 {lkfel14mdsubi2tgjvegd9bhhxgwag}:.
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waiting,
I think if people have some real hard facts on this particular issue, facts that show pedophiles were protected or that people were told not to go to the authorities, especially if threats are involved, then this may come to something and anyone with such information should get involved. But, anecdotes and outrage are going to get you nowhere. It has to be multiple witnesses and/or something in writing.
I think you would have to have Circuit or District Overseer involvement to get back to the boys at headquarters, they are officialy members of the Bethel family so that's a direct link, otherwise it's just the locals that will have to pay a price, not that there's anything wrong with that. A few scalps hanging on the lodgepole has a real salutory effect on others.
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Did You Know ....? [WtBTS]
by RR indid you know that ..... 1. the advent christian church published a monthly magazine called "the watch tower" published at the same time that the society published their "watch tower.".
2. that the society proclaimed the end of the world in 1914, 1915, 1918, 1925, 1945, 1975, 1984, 1994, 1999?.
3. that they once taught that the holy spirit ceased operating in 1918, and that jehovah was using angels to relay his new light?.
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I've been a Witness for decades and I knew people in a lot of different areas during the time period in question. There was no emphasis on those later dates at all. There's enough real stuff around without making things up. This alluding to and infering is so often in the minds of the beholders, or those who inflence the beholders.
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Can You Believe THIS?
by LDH infrom the jw-media site http://www.jw-media.org.
::::do you believe that you are the only ones who will be saved?.
many millions who have lived in centuries past and who were not jehovah's witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life.
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Gozz, very simply, No I do not believe only Jehovah's Witnesses will survive Armageddon and I am not sure if at that point 'names' will mean much at all. This is a question I've asked many Witnesses including Elders, ex-COs, etc. and to this date not one has said that only Witnesses will survive.
Frency said one thing is said and another is implied. I believe most people see the implication they want to see.
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Did You Know ....? [WtBTS]
by RR indid you know that ..... 1. the advent christian church published a monthly magazine called "the watch tower" published at the same time that the society published their "watch tower.".
2. that the society proclaimed the end of the world in 1914, 1915, 1918, 1925, 1945, 1975, 1984, 1994, 1999?.
3. that they once taught that the holy spirit ceased operating in 1918, and that jehovah was using angels to relay his new light?.
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Hierarchical structure is pretty close, and the commensurate authority structure. Don't believe JWs have ever burned anyone at the stake and the old rack and boiling oil are not much in evidence at judicial hearings.
1984, 1994, 1999? I don't think so. That's going way beyond the things written.
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Books
by larc ina good book,.
i was wondering if any of you have read a book "visions of glory" by barbara grizzutti harrison.
as far as i know, it is the only book written by a woman about the witness experience.
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larc, it has been a long time since I read the book so I don't remember too much specific, I though it was a bit of a stretch that she was being spied on in India, a few things like that. Of course the business about the hareem was a hoot. What brought it back to me was the other book which it turns out wasn't Curches That Abuse,very good by the way, but was The Politics of Religious Apostasy. In one section it described her 'lurid' writing about the Island Pond religious community. A couple of ex members, Harrison, and some anti-cult people stirred up a virtual firestorm about this group. In the end, there was nothing there, it was all way overblown. Before it all went away there were some pretty grievous bending of the law by some state agencies that got involved. The courts stopped it in the end because nothing was really going on.
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Can You Believe THIS?
by LDH infrom the jw-media site http://www.jw-media.org.
::::do you believe that you are the only ones who will be saved?.
many millions who have lived in centuries past and who were not jehovah's witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life.
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"Many now living may yet take a stand for truth and righteousness before God's time of judgment, and they will gain salvation." Like I said somewhere else, I take them at their very specific written word. Far as I'm concerned this does not say that such ones have to be JWs. Works for me.
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Books
by larc ina good book,.
i was wondering if any of you have read a book "visions of glory" by barbara grizzutti harrison.
as far as i know, it is the only book written by a woman about the witness experience.
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I read her book, found some of it quite a stretch to be honest. Then in another book, something like "Churches That Abuse" (Witnesses not mentioned) she was slammed pretty hard for some stuff she'd written about other religious groups that turned out in some instances not to be true and in other instances to be badly distorted. So, it could be that she's not refered to because she's not very accurate. Is that a dangling participle?
Edited by - Xandit on 26 January 2001 23:34:37