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  Who's Greg Stafford

  by Room 215 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone know greg personally?.

  i'm intrigued by the comments made regarding the recent release of his dissertations, and can't help but adimre him for the nobility of his intent.

  it seems to me he's a victim of the delusion that the beliefs of jws are intellectually defensible and can withstand the test of empiricism and hard, objective scrutiny.. i can't help but wonder how he's regarded by his peers in the local congregation, the local elders ad circuit overseer whether he holds any jw office (elder, ministerial servant, etc), whether he gives lectures, parts on the meeting, etc.

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  Xenu

  spender:
  The Messiah Prophet could have chosen whatever career path for his day. What did he do? Are you better than Yeshua?
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  Who's Greg Stafford

  by Room 215 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone know greg personally?.

  i'm intrigued by the comments made regarding the recent release of his dissertations, and can't help but adimre him for the nobility of his intent.

  it seems to me he's a victim of the delusion that the beliefs of jws are intellectually defensible and can withstand the test of empiricism and hard, objective scrutiny.. i can't help but wonder how he's regarded by his peers in the local congregation, the local elders ad circuit overseer whether he holds any jw office (elder, ministerial servant, etc), whether he gives lectures, parts on the meeting, etc.

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  Xenu

  Farkel-Spender:

  The Gospels inform us that the Prophet Messiah was a carpenter.
  The Gospels inform us that St. Paul was a tent maker. The Elohim
  blesses the humble one. Do not think you are better than someone becuase of a career.
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  a question about the "annointed" and ...

  by simwitness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone help me understand the chronology of the "144,000" doctrine of the wtbs?.

  what i am looking for is quotes/pointers to the publications about:.

  1. how they decided who was of this "special" class.. 2. when the cuttoff point was for being part of it.

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  Xenu

  simwitness:
  For it is borne witness in the hearts of the Saints, that the Elohim
  has chosen them.
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  Earthquakes -- major departure!

  by cyberguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  true, the knowledge book left out any explanation of earthquakes being part of the sign, but this awake article seams to be a major departure from previous explanations.

  marche 22, 2002, p. 9).

  before his death, jesus foretold events and situations that would give evidence that this world had entered "the conclusion of the system of things.

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  Is lack of evidence enough to discount a belief?
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  Earthquakes -- major departure!

  by cyberguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  true, the knowledge book left out any explanation of earthquakes being part of the sign, but this awake article seams to be a major departure from previous explanations.

  marche 22, 2002, p. 9).

  before his death, jesus foretold events and situations that would give evidence that this world had entered "the conclusion of the system of things.

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  AlanF:
  From the material, it appears that the conclusion is that the Societys number are meaningless becuase they can not be proven due to lack of signigicant records prior to the 1800's?
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  Earthquakes -- major departure!

  by cyberguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  true, the knowledge book left out any explanation of earthquakes being part of the sign, but this awake article seams to be a major departure from previous explanations.

  marche 22, 2002, p. 9).

  before his death, jesus foretold events and situations that would give evidence that this world had entered "the conclusion of the system of things.

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  Xenu

  Perhaps you misunderstand my intention. What about a 100 year time period.
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  Earthquakes -- major departure!

  by cyberguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  true, the knowledge book left out any explanation of earthquakes being part of the sign, but this awake article seams to be a major departure from previous explanations.

  marche 22, 2002, p. 9).

  before his death, jesus foretold events and situations that would give evidence that this world had entered "the conclusion of the system of things.

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  Alan F:

  Compared to any time period.
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  Earthquakes -- major departure!

  by cyberguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  true, the knowledge book left out any explanation of earthquakes being part of the sign, but this awake article seams to be a major departure from previous explanations.

  marche 22, 2002, p. 9).

  before his death, jesus foretold events and situations that would give evidence that this world had entered "the conclusion of the system of things.

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  Xenu

  AlanF:

  Have more people died since 1914 from earthquakes?
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  Earthquakes -- major departure!

  by cyberguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  true, the knowledge book left out any explanation of earthquakes being part of the sign, but this awake article seams to be a major departure from previous explanations.

  marche 22, 2002, p. 9).

  before his death, jesus foretold events and situations that would give evidence that this world had entered "the conclusion of the system of things.

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  Xenu

  AlanF:

  I was referring to the Society stressing in the past the number of people that have been affected by earthquakes since 1914. For example

  *** w83 5/15 6 Earthquakes-A Sign of the End? ***
  What is it that would make an earthquake “great”? Its intensity, or magnitude, as measured by the Mercalli or Richter scale? Or, rather, would it not be its notoriety and the amount of destruction it caused? As the accompanying Chart III indicates, loss of human life due to earthquakes has mushroomed since 1914. And some of them with the greatest magnitude have been deep within oceans, known only to a few, with little if any effect on human property or life. In determining the modern fulfillment of Jesus’ prophecy, we should focus not merely on the magnitude of quakes according to the Richter or other such scale but on the extent of resultant property damage and loss of human life
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  IF You Call or Have Bethel Contacts

  by messenger in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i thought i would pass for those it may concern.

  wt has instituted the highest security measures from within.

  in the course of the last year security has been installed at the trunk or core line going into and out of all wt facilities.

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  Xenu

  Are we to assume that this is all based on concrete evidence? It is already known that those who serve at the World Headquarters of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society receive monthly logs of the outside calls they have placed, for the purpose of billing.