xjw_b12
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NEWSPAPERS PROMOTING CBC TV SHOW!!
by hawkaw inhttp://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=44236&site=3.
and then go to page seven and onward and read the major canadian newspapers promoting tonight's tv show on the jw child abuse on the fifth estate!!!
this is more than i could have asked for!.
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Who still goes to meetings?
by christopherceo injust a curious question to see what types of stories i get.
let's hear how you do it.
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Elsewhere. Obviously you are not paying attention. I guess you solved the beer shortage problem. Did you take my advice, and get yourself a beer cooler, as I suggested earlier ? Good for 2 or 3 weeks, and you can see at a glance, when " fluids are low"
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Those of you who still do go... do you still get all dressed up?
Yes I wear my SuperHero Costume. Spandex through and through, I wear thongs underneath ( Valis suggested that )
Batman kind of. Black and Yellow. Only have a big JW on my chest, with a pre-dominant X through it.
I call myself SUPER APOSTATE !
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What do you expect after Fifth Estate program
by JH in.
with all the publicity around the fifth estate program being shown tomorrow night on cbc, do you think this will make a big impact in the general public?edited by - jh on 29 january 2003 6:44:36.
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JH Wouldn't it be great if the WTBTS was obligated to do a State of the onion address every year.
Or is that what they call their annual FS report ?
Same s**t, different pile.
Me thinks.... Jaded WTBTS Brooklyn accountants left years ago and went to work on contract for ENRON and WORLDCOM, where they finally got busted.
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Who still goes to meetings?
by christopherceo injust a curious question to see what types of stories i get.
let's hear how you do it.
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Have to agree with Shera, on that one.
Though I wouldn't say they are nightmares.
The occasional dream I have about going back to the KH, is usually in superhero mode, where I wrestle the podium from the P.O., then I play my magic flute, and all the rats follow me down to the big pond, where they drown.
Uggh, that's not very Christianlike is it !
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What do you expect after Fifth Estate program
by JH in.
with all the publicity around the fifth estate program being shown tomorrow night on cbc, do you think this will make a big impact in the general public?edited by - jh on 29 january 2003 6:44:36.
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Hello sKally
Great minds think alike...or fools seldom differ. A tip of the hat to ya. You said it much more elequently than I
To Scully. I cannot fathom that line of reasoning, from your mother. It gets more and more unbelievable every day.
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What do you expect after Fifth Estate program
by JH in.
with all the publicity around the fifth estate program being shown tomorrow night on cbc, do you think this will make a big impact in the general public?edited by - jh on 29 january 2003 6:44:36.
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I think most JW's will watch the program. No one will admit it to the other, but I really believe, they WILL watch and RECORD.
I think JW's are getting tired of getting " blasted" at the doors about the UN issue, and the child abuse issue, and they will think to themselves....If I am going out in F.S. Sat. morning, I had better be prepared for what the householder's may say. In reality a good number, will tune in, because they cannot ignore the obvious.
Expatbrit and others have referred to Hawkaw's term: "inoculating" the general public against the Watchtower.
This is what is important. Any thing that can be done to educate the public, to inject them with an anti-JW flu shot is the goal. This program will do more to enrage the public, than brain-dead JW's themselves. But if JW's are being constantly bombarded with this " public outcry ", hopefully it will cause some of them to come out of their self induced comas"
" Millions Now Living Will Never Know "
Edited by - xjw_b12 on 28 January 2003 20:2:21
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Got my judicial notes & file destroyed
by roybatty indoes it bug you that there are notes about you stuck somewhere in a kingdom hall file cabinet?
i cant say that its kept me up at night, but it does bother me that there are notes from my judicial hearing (and a file) that i cant access but just about anyone with a little bit of nerve can.
anyway, i decided to call the po from the last congregation i was in and request that these notes be destroyed.
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Not Bloody Likely.
You have been lied to. Part of the " Theocratic Warfare" There is no way I can see them destroying any record of any witness, ex or other wise.
They are too ANAL RETENTIVE......emphasis on anal...and retentive.
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Superbowl Sunday
by freedom96 inwho do you want to win?
for me, i would have gone for anyone who was against the raiders.
this should be fun.
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Let's see if this works. Geesh, I tried to start a post earlier, and now nothing but a server error ! ARRRGH.
Anyways...I was rooting for Philadelphia, and Green Bay, has always been one of my favs.
However, I.m going for Oalkand, for the first time ever. Cheering on the "old guys". I mean some of these guys are the same age, or a year or two youger, than myself, and they are still playing professional sports! They may not be as flashy, as some of the up and comings, but there is no substitute for experience. [ That's what I keep telling my wife ]
Oakland by 17 !
David of the " enduring happiness class "
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No reply from Hate Mailer. His mail & my r...
by xjw_b12 inre my post from last week.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=45220&site=3.
it would appear from responses i received, both publically and privately, that the hate email i received from j.a.
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Re my post from last week.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=45220&site=3
It would appear from responses I received, both publically and privately, that the hate email I received from J.A. was an isolated case.
Originally I was just going to ignore it, but the senders comment with regards to Child Abuse, angered me. It reminded me of the too common " stick your hand in the sand mentallity " that most JW's have. That and the recent WTBTS comments suggesting that the press / media is purposely spreading slander and lies about JW's motivated me to respond directly to J.A.
I have not received a reply, so I have decided to post the contents here, for the forum to peruse.
I am including the original mail sent to me, along with my response to the sender.
Here is the original email from J.A.
From: "J.A"
>To:
>Subject: the watchtower society and ex-jws
>Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:59:16 -0800
>Dear Mr. Smith you sound like every ex-jw's now a days.
>I am just sick and tired of all of you ex-jw's crying the
>blues about the Watchtower Society. I think you all want
>attention and publicity. I don't think that you are concerned
>with the JW kids you just want to spread your apostate
>message to get people to turn away from the Watchtower
>Society. No matter what you think of the Watchtower
>Society they teach the True doctrines of the Bible. Ex-JW's
>try to make apples out of oranges with all this nonsense
>of child abuse and the UN-connection, and all of the
>skeletons they have. I would be out of my mind to say
>that JW's are perfect little angels. They are not! They
>are human and yes some of the leadership have been
>affected by corruption but this does not change the fact
>that The "trinity" is false the "hellfire" teaching is not of
>the bible etc; That is what I notice about ex-jw's that
>all of sudden find Jesus. You all want to live an unscriptual
>life-style and have no penalty behind it such as "disfellowshipping or disassociation" This is a bible practice it was not invented by JW's. I am an ex-jw but
>I know right from wrong. Apostates love to make JW's
>look bad no matter how ridiculous and stupid it may
>sound. For years JW's have been condemned by the
>public for their disfellowshipping practice but now ex-jws
>want the public to believe that they are allowing child
>molester to roam around in the congregations and not do
>anything. This just does not add up. You of all people
>should know since you grew up in the truth.I don't know
>what you "apostates" get out of all this. I never had
>an elder or older JW try to molest me are abuse me so
>I don't know where all of this nonsense is coming from.
>I am sure there are some cases of JW's abusing kids
>just like Born-Again Christians abuse kids also.
My Response:
John. Replying to your email.
You have obviously been reading a lot of posts on the JW site you retrieved my email from.
A couple of comments.
JW's when they leave the org. have their own decisions to make as how they want to live. They no longer have to be concerned about conforming their lives to an ever changing set of authoritative rules, instituted by autocrats. Painting all ex jw's with the same brush, suggesting we immediately lose our consciences, and turn into immoral hedonists is rude, insulting, and judgmental.
I take exception to your impression about us. Your claim that we are publicity seekers, and do not care about the victims of child abuse is incorrect, misguided, and cruel. If you yourself have not been a victim of abuse, count yourself as one of the fortunate ones.
The overwhelming evidence from those abused, who have had the courage, to come forward, and the attempts of the WTBTS at all levels of the hierarchy to suppress it is well documented. Recent programs such as Dateline, BBC's Panorama, and the upcoming CBC,s the Fifth Estate offer irrefutable evidence of this.
I am inserting here a reply from a friend, whom I shared your email with, who was abused as a child. The story is , like all stories of abuse, very disturbing. Even more disturbing are the attempts to cover it up, to the point where the victims are made to feel the fault lies with them. Justice has been denied. Therein I think lies the major reason for a lot of the bitterness and contempt you allude to. This has translated into the forming of support groups, such as the Silent Lambs, and their crusade to see justice for the victims and protection for the innocents.
Her Story: Note. I have removed the story from this posting. I had permission to send it as an attachement with my email, but not post it in a public forum.
John. I hope this assists you to have a more balanced view of our position.
Regards:
Comments Anybody ?
" Millions Now Living Will Never Know "
Edited to add attachments. Having big technical problems today. Sorry everbody.
Edited by - xjw_b12 on 26 January 2003 13:42:56
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She's Graduating!
by Farkel inmy oldest daughter jennifer will graduate from medical school on may 1st!
it was a long haul for her.
she spent almost nine years as a full-time student at san diego state university.
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Congratulations to Jennifer and you too Farkel.
Does this mean you will be composing a song, and posting it on your web site, in honor of the momentous occasion ?
http://www.bizwebgroup.com/lp/da_farkel.htm
( unsolicited plug ! )