newdawnfades

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  New cart for cart witnessing.

  by Crazyguy in

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  i can’t show a pic because it was posted by a friend pimi on face book.

  but the pic was of a 3 wheel bike with a cart styled front and then in the back a basket but on the sides below the seat a plaque with the website on it.

  it’s really sad that the cult is using 100 year old technology to try and recruit people because modern ways of advertising either costs money or will expose them to ridicule and the members are clueless.

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  newdawnfades

  posted in wrong thread, sorry
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  Is attendance down in your location too?

  by StarryNight9 in

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  i was commenting on another thread about how local kh attendance is down.

  memorial attendance was also way down and the circuit assembly had hundreds less people than what is typical.

  my jw family has even mentioned it.

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  newdawnfades

  It was very low at my local congregation on Sunday I’m told. So much so that the visiting speaker sarcastically commented on it end everyone laughed.
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  EU Court Ruling Against WT on Data-Protection

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today's london times reports on the july ruling of the eu court that forces the organisation country to comply with data protection.. the action originated in finland but the ruling will affect every eu country.

  the cult tried unsuccessfully to argue that the notes taken by jws in the door-to-door work were personal and not accessed by the congregation.

  the court ruled that they are acting under the auspices of the congregation and therefore they must comply with data-protection laws.. keeping lists of do-not-calls also falls under this ruling.. why does the cult always feel that it is above the law?.

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  Someone in org will be working out a way to circumvent this ruling. It was done before, S8 forms were discarded and only personal notes were used to work round UK data laws about 25 to 30 years ago. If someone demands that they are not called on again that has to be noted and stored in an accessible way for all publishers in order to comply with the householders wishes.
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  Is changing the "truth" / presenting "new light" really so bad?

  by Zana in

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  2. friends

  playing devil's advocate here.... what's the difference between the gb changing bible interpretations compared to parliaments all over the world changing laws?

  although the us constitution (=bible) remains untouched, congress passes i don't know how many new laws every year.

  and of course people are expected to follow them.

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  newdawnfades

  The problem with changing interpretations if you are the self proclaimed F&DS is you kick people out and shun them if they disagree. It makes it awkward to be credible as the chosen channel with that God given power if you then disagree with your own interpretation and do a flip flop.

  Doesnt stop it from happening though.
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  How the Present G.B. Deceives its Followers/Readers.............​.......

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ............into believing that inferred "statements" are actual facts, while never stating anything!

  w07 1/1 p. 28 pars.

  11,12 "the first resurrection"—now under way!

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  Evidently
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  Does it not dawn on the cart witnesses?

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  i sat in town recently, right in the window of a nice wee pub.

  within minutes i realised that i had a perfect view of a jw cart and the two ridiculously dressed jw's (they have absolutely no individuality at all.

  what's more, they all look like they're going to a funeral).

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  newdawnfades

  There is a spin put on the cart witnessing to make it look worthwhile and its swallowed hook line and sinker.

  It goes that a person from a commuter town like I live in maybe won't talk at the door or pick up literature at his local station but when in the big city where he is unknown he will see the cart and pick up literature or start a conversation. So just by standing for hours in the cold/heat at our local station we provide a witness and further the good news and maybe lead to someone who sees some publication which interests them picking it up where they are not known.
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  Exactly where is the expansion?

  by NeverKnew in

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  2. friends

  there is a thread that i'm really enjoying discussing the consolidation of congregations into existing kingdom halls.

  i'm realizing that the only threads that have spoken of building were related to branch offices.

  we know the wts's consolidations and reopening a are a shell game of sorts but i'm wondering... is anyone seeing an increase in kingdom halls in their part of the world?

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  In the video a remark was made about the Chelmsford project to the effect that the size of the project was not yet decided. Something along the lines of no matter how big or small they will be ready to do it.
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  The biggest sell off of Kingdom Halls in Britain :Update

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the biggest sell off of kingdom halls in britain.

  hi guys last night i posted this here but only a few notes as it was quite fresh and only announced lasdt night at the meeting.i have now updated article and included a couple of useful links about this matter .

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  Plenty of building in my country. New halls, assembly halls, a new bethel. I am not saying this letter is a good thing but its importance is being exagerated. Or does that not fit the agenda?
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  The biggest sell off of Kingdom Halls in Britain :Update

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the biggest sell off of kingdom halls in britain.

  hi guys last night i posted this here but only a few notes as it was quite fresh and only announced lasdt night at the meeting.i have now updated article and included a couple of useful links about this matter .

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  I'll give you a proper update. The other thread on this subject is a fantasy trip. What was actually in the letter was that there are hundreds of halls needing built or refurbished and this task will take around 5 years. There may be some locations where up to 4 congregations could share a hall and some halls could be sold. This potential great sell off has been seized on here like carcass for a feeding frenzy. There is a major problem though, halls are built on land designated for religious use in the UK so who is going to want to buy them for any significant sum of money. This is getting blown out of all proportion. Shows how a lifetime of JW indoctrination makes 2+2 =5.
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  Scottish independance in two days what do you think?

  by barry in

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  one thing i would like to say is will the union jack be changed because the scottish flag is incorpreted in it.

  if the union jack is changed will we change our australian flag because the union jack is in our flag?

  even hawawi has the union jack also fiji and many other commonwealth countries.. .

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  newdawnfades

  All this speculation is pointless. I have been assured by an elder that the vote will be NO. Any other result would break up part of the anglo american world power. He conveniently ignores the fact that a large portion of Ireland broke away less than 100 years ago.