Posts by OneGenTwoGroups

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Religion, family structure and a successful life.

by SouthCentral in

this morning (12/3/16) on fox and friends ( a news show on the fox network) there was a great news piece.

it featured one of the newscasters and her parents, who happened to be the former governor of utah (jon huntsman).

religion ( the mormon church) has obviously played a large role in their family life.

OneGenTwoGroups

So, we're giving kudos to Fox and Mormons today hey? yowza

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Was the ransom premature? Shouldn't the effects of Adamic sin have been reversed at the time of Jesus' death?

by deegee in

if the ransom was paid at the time of jesus' death (mark 15:45, matthew 20:28, 1 timothy 2:6, hebrews 2:9), then why weren't the effects of adamic sin (sickness & death) reversed at that time?.

it seems to me that either:- the payment of the ransom was premature.

- god was not satisfied with the payment of the ransom; it was not sufficient to make up for adam's & eve's so-called "sin".hasn't god extracted enough from mankind as payment for adam's & eve's "sin" given the billions of persons who have lived and died?.

OneGenTwoGroups

Ask a nominal Christian what happened to faithful servants of God before Jesus died and they herp, then they derp.

Then you find out that many of them believe in some sort of limbo that they NEVER talk about. It's kind of like asking a JW about two overlapping groups and 1914.

To the objective observer, Jesus' appearance in the first century changed the world as much as his "invisible return" in 1914. No change, nada. Just a few more cars added to the baseless assertion train.

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My presentation (new one here!)

by Skepsis in

jw
friends

i registered in the board and i wanted to present myself.. i used to visit this forum some time ago and even register an account but then i tried to convince myself all was ok in the congregation.

now, i'm coming back :).

i live in a southern european nation, i'm a young jw, a good example in the congregation serving as a regular pioneer and ms. for all in the congregation i'm the good guy, one of the best examples in the area i live.

OneGenTwoGroups

I can't even describe what I felt when I woke up 5 years ago. I was a pioneer/elder at the time. I started feeling that non-JWs were human not just zombies that needed to learn "the truth".

Another big one for me was discovering and then learning to use the words "baseless assertion" in describing the ideas found in the Watchtower publications.

Currently there are circuits in your brain that are changing, both intellectually and emotionally. It is a joyous and yet painful ride.

Don't make any sudden moves, take your time, plan things out. You are playing chess, not checkers. Make sure you have searched this site for posts on how to "'fade" and other exit strategies. The main thing is to not tell any elder about your doubts right now, and be careful of "weak" JWs, that will report you too.

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Why Did JWs Abandon Brooklyn for the Sticks?

by Room 215 in

i may have missed this, but can anyone tell me what was the pretext the gb concocted to justify their abandonment of a perfectly suitable, high-profile, high-visibility complex in what is arguably the world's greatest metropolis for the bucolic isolation of upstate new york.

any how does the move square with their purported belief in the imminence of armageddon?

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OneGenTwoGroups

1. High maintenance costs for mid-rises in Brooklyn

2. A fine tuned, state of the art Bethel campus in the woods is much nicer for the day to day lives of the GB and Bethel heavies.

3. The amenities that NYC offers wasn't of much value to the GB. Broadway is full of those homosexualites and such like things.

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Well, the Apostasy Accusations Begins...

by Sorry in

so, it finally happened.

the first time i have been called out for being an apostate.

it started out innocently enough: my family and i were watching a tv show.

OneGenTwoGroups

The generation thing is your trump card, kudos for saving that until last. That hurts the most.

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Sunday's WT...funny, but sad for Dubs...

by DATA-DOG in

despite my often smart-ass exterior, i really don't have any desire to see the r&f dubs suffering.

i really do worry about the mental and emotional turmoil that they will experience, if and when the wtbts is truly exposed as a scam.

i know it seems unlikely to happen, but you never know..... anyway, the wt for the week was cringe-worthy to say the least.

OneGenTwoGroups

Sorry Bible, the sun's gravity isn't nothing.

You would think the guy who created gravity would talk about it.

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Jehovah God is Real

by TakeOffTheCrown in

there are many on this site that do not believe that jehovah truly exists; that he is not a real being.

but, he is as real as next breath you draw into your nostrils.. some of you say that there is no evidence that he exists.

yet, none of you can prove that he does not exits.. cofty, (you come to mind), i appreciate that you have stated, without reservation, that you do not believe that god exists.. yet, you cannot prove it.. hope in jehovah..

OneGenTwoGroups

I go to all the meetings, go out in field service, and am in my 6th year of being an atheist.

I have conducted Bible studies and considered baptismal questions with unbaptized publishers as an atheist.

A rough estimate is that I have prayed to Jehovah about 20,000 times in my life and still counting.

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You know it's time to give up the JW religion when your route call tells you to

by jambon1 in

jw
friends

lasting memory of the latter period of time in the organisation:.

i had a route call with the magazines whom i'd called on for a number of years.

eventually when i become a parent i became consumed with negativity, doubt (blood issue) & depression.

OneGenTwoGroups

Had a Bible Student tell me: "I just don't see a problem with birthdays."

To myself I said: "Me neither."

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Official Increase in the Number of Jehovah's Witnesses You Shouldn't Trust

by David_Jay in

reports are coming from witnesses that, once again, the number of memorial partakers has risen considerably this past year, 2016. while confirmation is still to come on the exact numbers, the current explanations given for this increase surely causes a dilemma.. imagine the roman catholic church publishing each year the number of members who it felt were mistaken about what they believed in, that this same number of members was likely suffering from problems such as pride or even mental disorders or something along this line.

this number, by the way, was in the thousands too and growing annually.

what would you conclude, therefore about the catholic church and its admission?.

OneGenTwoGroups

One more thing:

The actual partaker count is much higher than what is reported. In our area of the world, we never count partakers that we don't know at the Memorial. I'm sure it's the same for most areas.

I've actually been in the back of an auditorium debating with other elders whether to count a baptized JW lady as a partaker because she was "inactive". We didn't put her in our report.

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Official Increase in the Number of Jehovah's Witnesses You Shouldn't Trust

by David_Jay in

reports are coming from witnesses that, once again, the number of memorial partakers has risen considerably this past year, 2016. while confirmation is still to come on the exact numbers, the current explanations given for this increase surely causes a dilemma.. imagine the roman catholic church publishing each year the number of members who it felt were mistaken about what they believed in, that this same number of members was likely suffering from problems such as pride or even mental disorders or something along this line.

this number, by the way, was in the thousands too and growing annually.

what would you conclude, therefore about the catholic church and its admission?.

OneGenTwoGroups

How the holy spirit works according to Watchtower dogma:

The holy spirit tells the anointed to partake
The holy spirit doesn't tell other sheep to NOT partake ... OOPS!