Posts by Sparks

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how many ex circuit, district ,zone overseers ?

by dannywalsh in

i am interested to hear from former circuit,district ,zone , bethel branch overseers or those who were elders or served as gileadgraduate missionaries or special pioneers who have left the wt society because of doubts or crisis of conscience because of wt theology and practices , as i find it encouraging to hear from thier experiences and im sure others on the forum would too

Sparks

Hi yyyya Brotherrrr Beanzzzzzzz(hic) on my twentiifff can of Fosterrrrrzzzzzzzzz( hic) I`mm tryingg to be a goood dizzziple and followw in yorrr foot strepszzzz ( hic-zarrrrrrr) messaggge understood Sirrr, will now rrrrread your web-zite and zzubmit a report....pleazzzzzzzzzz beer along we me ... back sssssoon (hic)

Ha ha ha...very funny, I`ve only been gone twenty minutes, now I``m as sober as a Judge...( that was a rotten trick to pull on me...Brother Beans).Still it`s worth remembering, I`ll recommend it to any witnesses that come banging on my door in the future....maybe it will sober them up too....

I haven`t read all your pages yet, I had to come off after seeing a little JW with a flash-light moving around the screen.....I was frightend I`d start seeing pink elephants next, but I will return later...Actually Beans, your web-site was one of, if not, the first web-site I visited on buying this computer. It`s the first really rebellious thing I did while still regarding myself as a Jehovah`s witness, I was starting to feel like I was in a One flew over the Cockoo`s nest situation (film with Jack Nickelson) and in some sort of terrible nightmare- Dreamworld, surounded by the living-dead.....so just like the Americian guy in Midnight Express (film) I desided to walk around the other way....

The first thing that impressed me about your web-site, apart from the set-up and very professional graphics,was the amazing amount of research you`ve done....it must has taken years !!! But un-like when reading stuff about the witnesses or seeing Panarama on TV where my first trained re-action was `no...this can`t be true......With your plain and simple ` YOU said it...Take-it or leave it...I`m not saying a bloody word...approach, it was like having a cold shower at first, then like you`d just walked in the Gents toilet at an assembly and cault one of the Governimg Body spankin` the pony.........It was like finding the missing pieces of a jig-saw puzzal for me personally Beans, because for a bout twenty years or more I``ve either felt deeply patronized by the same old stuff being repeated for 5 hours a week or more, not including the reading or brain deadened.I felt deeply sorry for the brothers and sisters that had been in the congregation even longer than me (30 years).So I desided to make my next talk really differant..ie Deep and highly philosopical, so I dug in to the OLD Wachtowers and publications.....After two minutes into my talk I had 150 witnesses staring at me with their mouths open and two elders waving at me and pulling stupid faces....And no-body opened their bible on my request to read a scripture in Philemon..........(obviously they had never read other scriptures apart from 2 Timothy 3 etc...which are used in EVERY meeting). What really hurt me was that they treated me like some sort of nut case after that....or Apostate....So you can understand Beans how your fantastic web-site effected me personally. The Jehovah`s witnesses are frightend of their own shaddow behind them......

( If you are brand new here, or just visiting this web-site, please go to Bean`s web-site, it`s in the LAST MESSAGE)

I`ll send in another report Beans if you want me to, please ask....I welcome your Shepparding call.ANY-TIME... I`ll roll out the red carpet for you at Heathrow.....Ha Beans, a long time ago, I saw a huge bill-bourd near the airport ..It said ` DRINK CANADA DRY.......was that one of yours????

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Whats the dumbest reason youve been counseled?

by avishai in

my friend was counseled for having a bad attitude because he wore white socks w/ his suit.

Sparks

ah..........what a shame you and David didn`t skateboard over their JW status symbols parked out-side dueing the meeting..!!!.....oh and Valis, THEY WERE all staring at you Bro....it`s just difficault to tell; them all having two faces!!! ....And where else would they rather you be.?.. ..Tied to the main gates, your shirt striped-off and recieving 100 lashes with the horse-whip....( the only reason they don`t do this is because it would cause half the elders to rush into the Gents toilet to spank the pony).......( see Silence of the Lambs/BBC Panarama TVprogram, if you are new). In England, many elders forbid chidren watching The Simpsons as they are terrified Bart might become a role-model and child start to act like children....sad reality I know, but true....They also don`t like ANY age group walking around the wrong way in their nightmarish dream-world ( Midnight Express/film)..

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Whats the dumbest reason youve been counseled?

by avishai in

my friend was counseled for having a bad attitude because he wore white socks w/ his suit.

Sparks

P.S

Regarding 11:Telling househoulder Awake! magazines are simular to Readers Digest.........Looking back, I wish I would have explained WHY the Awake! magazine is simular to Readers Digest to the Householder.....1 :Their both writen for old farts ( if your under 60 and read em, youv`e gotta problem) and writen BY old farts. 2: Their both bloody patronizing...ie...two page spread.`How best to use up your unwanted bread..WHY NOT GIVE IT TO THE BIRDS!!!!! or ELECTRONIC GAMES Is There a Dark Side? 3: Their both a bloody good cure for insomia or chronic constipation ( real eye of a needle job- Minestrone).4: Most of the articals....especally if writen by `our correspondent in......start with the same old smarmy-greasy-sugerysweet sickening tone of semi-poetry...Example:artical from our correspondent in New Zealand about mountain bikes starts...`It`s early morning as the sun rises into the marmalade skies, streching it`s arms across the land..The sound of rubber on the dew covered tar mac, the air is filled with the sweet scent of Honeysuckle and Jasmin.....the spinning back wheel leaves a thin trail of diamonds on the frost covered road.Heres how to fix a puncture first you........

....shit, I shouldn`t have typed that...now I can feel a touch of Gandi`s revenge comin` on ( hope I`ve got enough toilet paper in the house...aahhhhhhhhh sorry, gotta go...

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Whats the dumbest reason youve been counseled?

by avishai in

my friend was counseled for having a bad attitude because he wore white socks w/ his suit.

Sparks

Hi Every-one, ( I`m new here ) .T he first time I was ever counseled was on my second meeting at a new Kingdom Hall, I had just moved from London to Southsea near Portsmouth...straight after the Watchtower study where I had answered-up, an elder stormed over to me and said in very loud voice ` theres no need to speak in that fake-posh BBC accent here.....BROTHER !!! ( I come from Chelsea, born a bred)

2:French kissing a pioneer sister on our first date ( she telephoned the P.O at midnight in tears ).

3:Having a small marble statue in my apartment ( Greek woman carrying a vase on her shoulder wearing a long dress with one boob hanging out and one arm missing), four elders came to counsel me about it.

5:Talking to my bible studies dueing the meeting ( I brought a family of four to the Kingdom Hall, the two teenage girls asked me to find a scripture for them, suddenly an elder is standing at the end of our row telling us not to talk as it was causeing a disturbance....( the girls whispered once to me....`wheres 1 Timothy??)

6:Having three screwdrivers in my minestry bag.

7:Having short hair cut.

8:Asking a question dueing the tuesday group study.

9:Calling Tiberius Caesar a raving puff in my answer.

10:Giving a talk 100% directed for children.( the only time the kiddies get attention is at C.Os visit).

11:Telling a householder the Awake! magazines are simular to Readers Digest.

12:Having too many bible studies (15)

13:Having a female bible study ( she was 15 years old, shy and refused to be passed on).

14:Eating Polo`s during meeting.

15:Refuseing to work with C.O ( I used to leave that for the yes-men and Brown-noses).

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do you think that there is a big exodus due from t

by dannywalsh in

i dont know about you guys but im starting to get the feeling that a big fallaway is on the cards in the wt world what with all the recent scandals and the advent of the internet , information is so readily available to those in developed countries ,i feel that especially in developed nations the wt will suffer huge losses due to apathy and their extreme stand on so many issues, that many will become sick and tired of the wt treadmill of life which is so far away from the simplistic beauty of biblical christianity what do you think?

Sparks

Please excuse the long winded approach....comes from 30 years of recycling JW teachings etc......100 years ago, or more,people had huge families, worked hard down coal-mines(13 hours aday at the age of 13 or less)worked the land with only horses, women cooking and cleaning without electrical appliances and polished the brass etc...etc...it`s plain to see that back then people were harder working and less pampered.....When Jehovahs witnesses started out in this time period, they had huge great Watchtowers the size of Newspapers to study, books being churned-out like sausages, and worked on their minestry harder. Right-up until, what the 1970s (?) the assemblies were several days long...... Today the witnesses have 5 meetings a week, and let me stress NOT five hours a week but much much more than that, because a witness has to pre-study for these meetings, prepair talks and on the meeting night travel and associate ( compulsory) and travel back home, this meens looseing two nights aweek, and the best part of the weekend with another meeting and feild-srevice...and some loose hours each week prepairing for their bible-study..etc..etc...so,...(2 hours later) the JW religion must be one of the most demanding religions on earth..This is because the brass at the top haven`t moved with the times, people may have all the modern technolgy, mico-wave ovens, cars etc...but seem to have less time now days.....So in answer to your question, I think people will get more and more fed-up with the pressures put on them, and leave in droves.I also think this wealthy religion will take the same path as Mc Donalds..(burger bar) and aim for poorer countries where the people haven`t got sick of the same old food yet....( when was the last time they had any-thing new!!!)....

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how many ex circuit, district ,zone overseers ?

by dannywalsh in

i am interested to hear from former circuit,district ,zone , bethel branch overseers or those who were elders or served as gileadgraduate missionaries or special pioneers who have left the wt society because of doubts or crisis of conscience because of wt theology and practices , as i find it encouraging to hear from thier experiences and im sure others on the forum would too

Sparks

Yeah thanks xen awarrior......The pennys finnally dropped..!!! I`m sure if Beans message would have read.....

Hi, I`m the Canadian District Overqueer ! I have been serving for about a year now and am enjoying meeting brothers and sisters from around the world ! Newbies and visiters to this web-site for the first time would have INSTANTLY realised it wasn`t a real Jehovahs witness District Overseer talking to other Jehovahs witnesses and trying to be witty. To follow your example, maybe I should change my username to DAN SID-LICK ( that should really confuse the visitors and Newbies, after-all, it`s a million miles from Dan Sydlik...!!!).

SORRY ABOUT MISSUNDERSTANDING BEANS.....REALLY I AM.

Got to rush-off now and get down the Indian Take Away before the Health insector.........

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how many ex circuit, district ,zone overseers ?

by dannywalsh in

i am interested to hear from former circuit,district ,zone , bethel branch overseers or those who were elders or served as gileadgraduate missionaries or special pioneers who have left the wt society because of doubts or crisis of conscience because of wt theology and practices , as i find it encouraging to hear from thier experiences and im sure others on the forum would too

Sparks

While I`m sitting here waiting for some ex-big shot witness to answer the question starting this thread......does any-one know about ANTIQUES here, especially from the first century Christian times? if you do, please get lost a minute, as I have some post-cards for sale to district overseer`s or other high ranking witnesses with plenty of dosh to spread around. I was on holiday last year in Jerusalem, and bought some really old post-cards on a greasy market stool,the Arab selling them said their all from the first century,and genuine antiques.......I will translate them for you- The first card is from a man called Saul, sent to friends in Corinth from some-where just out-side Damascus,( his writing is slightly illegible) it says....`Hi Guys! having a blinding time....Two long letters to follow`...... The second card is from a small band of Christian brothers in Lystra..`Dear All,checkin` out the night-life in Lystra.Locals seem abit hostile.Good food,wine and beer.Paul got stoned last night and woke-up out-side the city walls.......Next card is from Caesars`wife...`Hi Ceez, visiting Disney World,place fall of shouting/screaming little brats....wish you was Her--od..........All the 100%guaranteed genuine ANTIQUE post-cards are for sale at just $200each( post&packing $100 each) Be the envy of the Watchtoer Bible Tract Society.....buy now while stocks last!!!(send e-mail).

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how many ex circuit, district ,zone overseers ?

by dannywalsh in

i am interested to hear from former circuit,district ,zone , bethel branch overseers or those who were elders or served as gileadgraduate missionaries or special pioneers who have left the wt society because of doubts or crisis of conscience because of wt theology and practices , as i find it encouraging to hear from thier experiences and im sure others on the forum would too

Sparks

Hi Every-body, especally Outoftheorg/BIG Tex and Brummie,SORRY-SORRY-SORRY guys,about the HUGE font size......I`m new to working on a compuer and teaching myself as I go along, it`s a small miracle I`ve come this far.!!! I keep pressing all the wrong keys etc...Thankyou all for informing me about the text size and computer etiquette as I don`t wish to offend any-one. Judging from you lot( your graphics etc..) your old lags at this game, and very professional.....I just hope you don`t know how to hack into my computer, I wouldn`t want you to see my secret stash of web-cam movies made of elders having a gay time in Bethel.....!!!Any, sorry again guys.Thanks for informing me that I`ve already started a `thread` as I didn`t realise.....But wheres all the woman in England/Scotland??????Outoftheorg, I enjoyed your story of the electrician and how he got his nick-name.ie.SPARKY. Yes you probably guessed, I`m an electrian too.I re-wire houses etc..not Trucks, and haven`t electrocuted any-one YET.....!!Sparks is a common nick-name here in England for electricans, up North their called `Leckies`.....bit of totally useless information for ya...!!!! No more sassing Brother Beans......Bollocks, this creep and all the rest of them need waking up, they all live in some-sort of Dreamworld where nothing effects them, which is created by this party-line you mentioned.And as I stated afore in differant words,being surrounded by yes-men and Brown-noses, smellig fresh paint every-where they go etc..etc..especially people always agreeing with them/laughing etc...psychologically this puts them in some weird-utopia. Thomas Grey said.....`ignor---ance is bliss`...!!!!!! Thanks again guys...and SORRY again Big Tex......( I don`t like to up-set people who may own a gun...).

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how many ex circuit, district ,zone overseers ?

by dannywalsh in

i am interested to hear from former circuit,district ,zone , bethel branch overseers or those who were elders or served as gileadgraduate missionaries or special pioneers who have left the wt society because of doubts or crisis of conscience because of wt theology and practices , as i find it encouraging to hear from thier experiences and im sure others on the forum would too

Sparks

ooops...... sorry `hamptonite21` I put the wrong icon (`) in.......it should have been....... Still, we all make misstakes,thats why they put erasers on the ends of pencils..!!! Being brand-new to this web-site ( or is it called a bourd?) I`m totally green.But yes I did catch your sarcasm.These overseer types think their so bloody witty, it`s because their always surrounded by `yesmen` and other Brown-noses `reaching out`, as they call it,people with no selfrespect or dignity...These C.Os / District overseers etc..travel around the country being treated like film stars or gods eating the best food etc..where-ever they go; people hanging on to every word they say and pissing themselfs with laughter at every slight witasism........This Beans bloke obviously lives in some sort of mental utopia........which is quiet obvious from his tone.He didn`t even read or understand the question!!! as he is not an ex- Maybe he was nick-named Beans because hes an old fart.........!!!! Because I`m new to computers and not sure how to navigate around this web-site, I`m gonna lurk in the wings.....( I do wish there was some-more info on how to go about things here though......). do I hear `canned` laughter Beans..........

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how many ex circuit, district ,zone overseers ?

by dannywalsh in

i am interested to hear from former circuit,district ,zone , bethel branch overseers or those who were elders or served as gileadgraduate missionaries or special pioneers who have left the wt society because of doubts or crisis of conscience because of wt theology and practices , as i find it encouraging to hear from thier experiences and im sure others on the forum would too

Sparks

Thanks very much indeed `capone` you sound like a really nice guy...your restoring my faith in human kindness already!!! Question though, whats `apostfests` mean? and how does one go about `creating a thread????? Thanks again for your quick resonce and comforting words. I`m off to bed now, been up all night reading the letters on this great web-site, it`s early morning here in snow covered England...........see ya,thanks again capone (any relation!!!???)