dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
CZAR,
Now here I am, trying hard, and what do I find out? The very same religion that put me through that hell to keep me, "no part of the world" has signed a similar "Pledge of Allegiance" to the UN!!!
You're the one that has apparently buckled, not the WTS. The WTS has NOT pledged allegiance to the UN. You deserve a trophy for being the greatest EXAGGERATOR of JW.com.
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Edited by - Yadirf on 24 November 2002 23:18:17
dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
CZAR,
Was what they did wrong, or not? If not, why did they keep it secret, then bolt when the truth was revealed?
It certainly was NOT wrong! And as to their so-called "secret," what is there to dictate that the Governing Body must reveal their every move to the rank and file of the Organization?
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dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
Little Lulu,
When the WT joined the U.N.they joined an organization who's objectives are contrary to the bible.
So was the case too with the JW employee in my above example, Lulu. Yet, even though he was a "member" of the Labor Union on paper, his involvement never went any further than that, simply because many of the Union's"objectives are contrary to the bible".
When a person joins a union,they join an organization who's objectives are in line with the bible
It was by the joining of hands that the Tower of Babel reached into the clouds. It's no secret what God thought about about the Union that accomplished that feat, is it?
You're too funny, Little Lulu.
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dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
Gerard,
They actually signed this contract and lied to YOU and everyone else about it.
First of all, you nor anyone else can prove such a thing. Have you got copies? No you don't!
Secondly, even if they did sign such papers it means as little or as much as the signee wishes to make out of it. What really indicates whether or not there was true "support" shown for the United Nations is how that political entity is actually viewed by the WTS, and there is little mystery about that because it is still explained to be part of the Devil's worldly political system.
Let's face it, the WTS got a good stiff uppercut in on ole Satan's system and some of his pawns who post at this forum are more than a little upset. LOL!
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dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
Ballistic,
Yardif, using your logic, witnesses could do things like join their own families at Christmas to show just how loving they are.
No, that's not a true comparison. Were a Witness to accompany their non-JW family at Christmas it would mean for them to become involved in the holiday as well. The WTS didn't become "involved" with the UN, not in any shape, form, or fashion. The WTS merely became a "member," remember? To this very day the WTS still sees the United Nations as being the scarlet-colored wild beast. Indeed, nothing has changed.
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Edited by - Yadirf on 24 November 2002 1:53:57
dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
Kaytee,
If the UN involvement was nothing bad, why was it kept so secret, not even the elders knew about it and why did they come out of the UN within a couple of days of being exposed by the Guardian newspaper ???
There are no doubt a lot of things that go on at the top level that is no concern of the elders, and this was undoubtedly one of those things. And "why did they come out" at the particular time that they did, you ask? Likely because the benefits for originally becoming a "member" had already been realized anyway.
What is your answer to the many false prophecies that have come from the Organisation, the most important one being 1914. a pivotal year for the Org. is this some sort of strategic plan that we are not aware of?
No, there has never been any "strategic plan" with regards to the 1914 doctrine. What you have witnessed is a people whose hearts really do yearn for God's Kingdom to come, even to the extent that they have seen things written in the Bible that really isn't there. Is that really so bad? Although, personally, I'm all for being 100% accurate, I don't think that Jesus would condemn such an attitude.
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dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
Gerard,
They not only used UN information, they actualy BECAME MEMBERS.
So what if they did become "members"? that is, if it was for no other purpose that like the employee did in my example up above. Apparently you never read that, or you arent paying attention. Here it is again, try concentrating this time:
One might compare the Society's past actions in this regard to an employee who pays Union dues for the sole purpose of receiving BENEFITS that might otherwise be unatainable, while at the same time being totally disinterested and uninvolved in Union activities. Really, has such an employee crossed the line and become part of "the world" simply as the result of paying Union dues? Obviously not!
So, you see, the employee in the example did in fact become a Union dues paying MEMBER, but he was a "member" by reason of that fact alone. Therefore, since such a person really doesnt care to support the Unions cause then nobody can honestly claim that the person is behind the Union. In the same manner the WTS has never given support to the cause of the United Nations. True, the WTS has had articles relating to the United Nations appear in its literature, but that in itself doesn't prove support.
Youre doing nothing but clutching at straws!
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dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
Flop,
I perceive that you have no spine.
Friday
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dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
The truth is that they simply made strategic use of the United Nations in order to further the good news of God's Kingdom throughout the earth.Great! " The truth is " Ill use a similar excuse at the next judicial hearing.
There's a difference between an "excuse" and a justifiable REASON for a certain action. You know that, don't you? The Society had good "reason" for what they did, and it was unselfish. Will your "excuse" further the good news of God's Kingdom, you Flop?
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dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
You people are absolutely too funny, and silly to boot. You continue to make entire mountains out of mere mole hills. The way you would have it is that the WTS lent their whole-hearted support to the very organization they believe the beast of Revelation 17 to be. That's absolutely not true, and there could be nothing farther from the truth. The truth is that they simply made strategic use of the United Nations in order to further the good news of God's Kingdom throughout the earth. One might compare the Society's past actions in this regard to an employee who pays Union dues for the sole purpose of receiving BENEFITS that might otherwise be unatainable, while at the same time being totally disinterested and uninvolved in Union activities. Really, has such an employee crossed the line and become part of "the world" simply as the result of paying Union dues? Obviously not!
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