before i had started studying with the jw's i had tried to read the bible.
it didn't make sense to me.
(in all honesty, i didn't try real hard nor did i put forth alot of time into my readings).
Goshawk says:
Hmmmm
Didn't I read a post by Simon or someone that looked very much like him that put a prohibition on people using multiple identities on this forum.Looks in Lefty/yadirf 's direction.
I am NOT using multiple identities, the "Lefty" account is that of my wife's ... not mine (Yadirf's). You do not see me signing off as "Lefty," as I always sign off as "Yadirf" to avoid confusion. This has already been worn out in another thread of late.
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before i had started studying with the jw's i had tried to read the bible.
it didn't make sense to me.
(in all honesty, i didn't try real hard nor did i put forth alot of time into my readings).
i have no mercy i go right for the throat. i leave the ball in their court... now they go away with the ? in their mind...john
Bull$h!t! You couldn't brick an 4' X 4' outhouse if you were given a month of sunshine to do it in with the bricks, mortar, and trowel donated to you, along with $100,000.00 to boot.
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i've taken note that the person that goes by the name "outlaw" continues to post daily.
yet, he hasn't entered the thread whose title bears his very own name.
yes, conveniently, outlaw skips past a thread that calls him to account for the lie he spoke about yadirf.
I'm thinking about kicking you off the list and flushing you down the toilet along with TR. Now don't tell me that you find that "acceptable too".I find it tolerable.
Expatbrit
So what you're admitting to is that you "find it tolerable" being with the rest of the turds, right? *LOL*
It takes a turd to tolerate a turd.
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while investigating the wts concept of "two classes of christians" - the first being a heavenly ruling class made up of the 144,000, and the second an earthly subject class - i decided to investigate the basic wts premise that all of the 144,000 are to be "rulers with christ".
those who would rule with christ - the "first resurrection".
although it could be theorized that if paul said that the "saints" or "holy ones" are to judge the world, and these are part of the "firstfruits" then the some of the 144,000 may be ruling with christ.
2. Having the name of Jesus and God on your forehead does not make one a ruler with Christ. By WTS definition (Revelation book pg. 200) these ones are considered "Jehovah's witnesses, his slaves", a name certainly shared by the Great Crowd of non-rulers - who if they don't have the mark of the beast would assumedly have the mark of Jehovah to identify them as "Jehovah's Witnesses" thereby avoiding God's wrath. WTS uses the analogy of JWs being a "marked" people continually.
For a moment, forget "WTS definition" and "WTS analogy". Show me a scripture that shows that the "Great Crowd" has God's name written upon their foreheads. Show me a scripture that shows that anyone other than Jesus and the 144,000 have God's name written upon their foreheads. Show me a scripture that even talks about the name of the wild beast not being upon people's foreheads other than those who will obviously rule with Christ. (Re 20:4) In view of the fact that there are no such references to be found, it must be concluded that those rulers who had not received the mark of the beast on their foreheads (Re 20:4) are none other than the ones who had God's name written on their foreheads, namely the 144,000 (Re 14:1).
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i've taken note that the person that goes by the name "outlaw" continues to post daily.
yet, he hasn't entered the thread whose title bears his very own name.
yes, conveniently, outlaw skips past a thread that calls him to account for the lie he spoke about yadirf.
Pleasuredome spouts,
lying isnt very nice is it Yadirf....but then calling people a bastard isnt much better, is it?
Except that the lie mentioned was indeed truly a lie, and the bastard you reference is indeed truly a bastard. Does that make sense to you, PleasureD? Or do you need help with that nmad Dome you have there atop your eyebrows? Hint: The first you mentioned is the truth (Outlaw lied), the second you mentioned is the truth also (Valis is a bastard). And, yes, calling Valis a bastard is much "better," because it is the truth (ask him why don't you). On the other hand, Outlaw's lie is just that ... a nmad lie, which is not as good because it isn't the truth. Get it?
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what really started cheesing me off with the wt and awake magazines while i was still an active jw was the constant propaganda based on man versus jehovah.
it was as if there was a great tug-of-war being propogated between man and god by the wt society.
everything that man made was constantly criticised and belittled, while whatever jehovah made was so great!
These two TWITS are so busy giving each other high-fives that neither one of them realizes that they have their pants down in full view of the public:
"Well said Poop!" "Nice comment Fartful."
By way of review:
Fartful says: "Well said Poop!"
Poop replies: "Weeeell thaannnnk yoooou Fartful, nice of you to say so ... I need all the praise I can get ... and now you can stoop down and kiss my lazy a$$, but of course only after you have kissed my hand first. I'm about to go to lunch is the reason, and I don't want my hand made unclean by my own a$$."
Fartful answers: "But I have already kissed your lazy a$$ ... er, while your weren't looking."
Poop says, angerily: "How many times must you be told to keep your head out of my a$$ without first having my permission."
Fartful then says: "Perhaps it would please the Poop if he were to set up a schedule for me to kiss his majesty's lazy a$$?"
Poop replies: "That's what I like about you, Fartful, you help me with real difficult decisions such as this."
Fartful: "To make you happy is my reason for living, Poop."
Poop: "May you be granted eternal life, Fartful. Now, get your head back up my a$$ ... and do it IMMEDIATELY!"
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Edited by - Yadirf on 23 December 2002 21:29:25
a 2000-year-old-plus religion cannot survive for much longer!
we are questioning the wbts every day!
the web is a great way of exposing the wbts, and we are doing it daily!.
Slippery Nickery,
I had said:
Do you know of any case in which there have been those who have tried to overthrow the Catholic church?
To which you replied:
Why yes Yadirf. Actually I do... and just like you've said, blah, blah, blah.
Did it ever occur to you that since the question I asked was "Do you know of any case, etc." that for you to answer that question would require you to be specific in identifying any such cases that you know about? It doesnt suffice for you to simply say, 'Why yes, Yadirf, actually I do know of such cases' ... only to avoid listing them then. You have done nothing but make an unfounded claim, and then when someone presses you to prove your point you become all evasive. Thats why I have dubbed thee "Slippery Nickery".
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i've taken note that the person that goes by the name "outlaw" continues to post daily.
yet, he hasn't entered the thread whose title bears his very own name.
yes, conveniently, outlaw skips past a thread that calls him to account for the lie he spoke about yadirf.
BTW, why did I only rank number 4 on the liars list? Now that really hurt my feelings.
You should feel honored that I was even willing to use my previously unpoluted keyboard in typing out your name to begin with ... given the reputation that you've acquired for that name. BTW, are you absolutely sure that your name doesn't have one too many letters in it? Seems to me like it ought to only have four letters, like some other curse words have got.
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i've taken note that the person that goes by the name "outlaw" continues to post daily.
yet, he hasn't entered the thread whose title bears his very own name.
yes, conveniently, outlaw skips past a thread that calls him to account for the lie he spoke about yadirf.
Actually Yadirf. On the subject of your original post I have always found Outlaw a rather strange poster. He drifts in out of the frozen north, mumbles a few words of "supportiveness" and then rides away into the blizzard again. But he very rarely reveals much. A man of mystery indeed. -- RF.
A perfect portrayal of the man you gave there, RF.
The only thing that I would add to it in order to complete the picture, is that he flat out lied about another poster on this board, in order to make the object of his lie (namely me) look all the more ridiculous in the eyes of all who might read my posts. The outlandish claim that he made (saying that I had claimed to be a cherub, etc.) was an obvious attempt to discredit me and anything that I might have to say, or have ever said in the past. Of course I really don't expect too many people here to lend a favorable ear to what I have to say anyway (because of the bias against the WTS) but with a rumor circulating around that I claim to be a "cherub," that would definitely reduce the chances of anyone listening to me or taking my posts seriously. Who would listen to such a nut? Joshua 92, whom you probably recall (the one that claimed he was Jesus returned in 1992), was a person that nobody had any reason for taking his posts seriously. Outlaw was placing me on the same level as Joshua 92, by means of his lie. If people want to see me as a nut, then let it be because I myself have given the impression, not because someone has made up a lie about me.
It was a low-down trick, that had it been pulled on anyone else here, everyone here would be up in arms about it ... and slamming the dirty liar. But, not so when a JW has been the object of such lie and defamation of character. See what I mean about the terrible bias that exists here on this board?
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i was once part of you.
my love for you is still great.
regardless of where you are in your life my thoughts are with you.
I hope you ponder- with good heart and intention- why ones such as we [apostates] would ever think of leaving the "truth".
LOL, there's no mystery at all about THAT! It's simply because the apostate no longer wanted to be shackled with having to keep the requirements that come with being a Christian. Nothing difficult to understand about why some people "would ever think of leaving the truth". I mean, SH!T Fire! ... some things in life are EASY to understand.
Not to insinuate that you haven't a "good heart" and "good intentions," of course. *LOL*
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