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  Catholics cannonized the Bible, right?

  by StinkyPantz in

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  isn't it true that the roman catholic church put together the bible (canonized the books), and decided the order and all that?

  if this isn't true set me straight please.. what do the witnesses think about this?

  is it (the bible) just as valid if part of "christendom" decided which books of the bible would be included?

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  YERU2

  No exact date for any of the Gospels exist, to include that of John. Scholars date it from the Early AD 90's to AT VERY LATEST

  AD 120. I've yet to read a serious scholar that questions the existence of Jesus, how he is interpreted perhaps, but not that he was a real person. The earlier date is favored by most scholars as Polycarp knows and quotes John's Gospel. Polycarp had met John the Apostle.

  I never met my Grandfather, he died when my mom was 16, she's told and retold his stories so much I can repeat them verbatim.

  Edited by - Yeru2 on 2 September 2002 4:6:29
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  Opinons Please--Church-State division?

  by patio34 in

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  i saw this in this morning's news on lucianne.com.

  they have a posting opinion section and 100% of the people were against this guy.

  1) should there be a more absolute division of church and state in the u.s.?

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  Trauma Hound,

  You're forgeting the issue of the security checks that those serving as Senate and House Chaplains have to go through. Local DC clergy aren't required to submit to this, Senate and House Chaplain's are. Sometimes these guys and gals need to talk about things that are sensitive, moral issues dealing with a bill or resolution, etc. Plus, if a Congressman wants to discuss his alcohol problem the Senate Chaplain is required by law to maintain silence, a civilian is not and must be sued in civil court after any such revelation (whereas the Senate Chaplain can go to jail). There is actually a staff of several chaplains from several different denominations, selected by each House to meet it's needs, not just one. In fact a good friend of mine was the Catholic Chaplain that the Senate recently (last three years) refused to appoint as THE Chaplain. The Congress can select any denomination it so desires.
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  So I was put in the back of a police car....

  by Mimilly in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  oops.... should start at the beginning of a story shouldn't i!

  i've been lower than a serpent's belly as of late.

  finances just got a whole lot worse; argued 5 times with monopolistic telephone company who took my payment (money from 'hubby') yet didn't re-connect me; went searching for my resume on hubby's computer and found child porn instead.

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  Mimily,

  Thank you for talking openly about suicide and your depression. Often just being able to say it out loud helps get people through danger areas. Folks, if you suspect it, ASK, DIRECTLY, "Are you thinking about suicide" or "Are you thinking about killing yourself" Don't use euphimisms like "hurting yourself" it doesn't give the individual permission to talk about it like the direct question does. Don't worry about "planting the idea of suicide" if they're not considering suicide as an option, asking won't put it there.

  Mim, sounds like you know what to do, reach out, stay on meds, see doc, BUILD YOUR RESOURCES, both EXTERNAL and INTERNAL. The Suicide intervention training I have was developed in Canada it's called Applied Suicide Intervention Skills Training (ASIST). If ya need to talk email me.
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  Woman Dragged Out Of Window By Demon!!!!

  by SYN in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  oh dear.

  jwzone never fails to deliver, and the only thing that can make me laugh when i have a hangover this bad (sucky thing is, i don't even drink!

  ) is a post like the following from that haven of dubiness:"size matters not," to borrow a phrase.

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  "Size matters not," to borrow a phrase. Case in point: The bookmark with the tiny cross on it resulted in demons entering a bedroom and dragging a man's wife, by her feet, halfway out a four-story window, with the husband hanging onto his wife by her arms, fighting against the unseen power with all his strength, pinning his legs against the inside wall below the window. For some inexplicable reason, the demons let go when the woman was halfway out the window. A friend of the man, one of Jehovah's Witnesses, helped him find the bookmark with the tiny cross on it and it was burned.

  Again?

  The S.O.B. did the same thing last weekend over at my house. SHIT!
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  Opinons Please--Church-State division?

  by patio34 in

  1. social
  2. current

  i saw this in this morning's news on lucianne.com.

  they have a posting opinion section and 100% of the people were against this guy.

  1) should there be a more absolute division of church and state in the u.s.?

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  YERU2

  So challenge it in court Trauma, Oh, wait, that's already been done, and failed. OK, how do you feel about paying the salary of military chaplains with your tax dollars?
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  TOP 10 LIST - First Week at Bethel

  by joeshmoe in

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  top ten things you learn your first week at bethel: .

  10. the average guy you're taking orders from is 50 yrs old and has never kissed a girl.. 9. all the suggestion boxes have been converted to donation boxes.. 8. after watching 'weekend at bernie's,' it dawns on you that all the gb are actually dead.. 7. the definition of a cult: running through the streets at 6:59am in shirt and tie.. 6. the only graffiti in the bathroom stalls are masturbation tips.. 5. the guys in the writing department sell some kick ass marijuana.. 4. no one thinks your fake malawi party card is funny.. 3. for a good time, call 1-900-ted-jarecz.. 2. the private parking pavilion is for un members only.. ...and the number one thing you (should) learn your first week at bethel.... 1. without two witnesses, jr brown can't prove you sodomized him with a baseball bat.

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  YERU2

  OK, sounds like #4 is the winner, I laughed too.
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  Catholics cannonized the Bible, right?

  by StinkyPantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  isn't it true that the roman catholic church put together the bible (canonized the books), and decided the order and all that?

  if this isn't true set me straight please.. what do the witnesses think about this?

  is it (the bible) just as valid if part of "christendom" decided which books of the bible would be included?

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  I wasn't really too concerned with gnosticism as a way of approaching various religions, but rather as a Christian Heresy. As a Christian Heresy it was largely defeated by pen and preaching long before there was a secular arm to the church. I don't debate that the heresy survived in some forms and that the church/secular authorities dealt harshly with it. Again though, the role they were seen to play as subversives and revolutionaries to the secular authorities can not be under rated. Again, I don't condone this, I only try to explain it in the proper light.
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  S. Carolina Judges Seek to Ban Secret Settlements

  by Littlebit in

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  2. friends

  south carolina judges seek to ban secret settlements

  by adam liptak

  outh carolina's 10 active federal trial judges have unanimously voted to ban secret legal settlements, saying such agreements have made the courts complicit in hiding the truth about hazardous products, inept doctors and sexually abusive priests.

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  YERU2

  Neat, where'd ya pick up that little tidbit?
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  Opinons Please--Church-State division?

  by patio34 in

  1. social
  2. current

  i saw this in this morning's news on lucianne.com.

  they have a posting opinion section and 100% of the people were against this guy.

  1) should there be a more absolute division of church and state in the u.s.?

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  YERU2

  To add a bit of fuel to the debate, the Congressional Chaplains undergo a security check, etc, something NOT imposed nor LEGAL to impose upon the local clergy with whom the Congressmen might otherwise seek counsel and aid. Hiring a Chaplain allows for the free exercise of the Congress.
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  Do JWs eat fat?

  by scooter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  reading some of the recent posts on the blood issue reminded me of a verse that i have never yet had a jw explain.

  lev 3:17 in the nwt reads " it is a statute to time indefinite for your generations, in all your dwelling places: you must not eat any fat or blood at all.".

  jws use other verses to try and show that we mustn't eat blood as = having a blood transfusion.

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  Hylandr,

  I like the new hair cut.