Posts by yrs2long

a few days ago someone wrote about a new rule that came out in elders school this summer about inactive ones still being accountable to jehovah's (watchtower) rules.

does this mean that they are going to start disassociating ones who have been inactive for years who are not upholding the rules?

i know of a few people who have not attended meeting in several years who either celebrate holidays or in other ways break the rules and everybody knows it.

Along with Abaddon's comment (welcome back BTW), I remember talks being given in which it was stressed that if you're not witnessing (preaching), then you cannot be a witness. Do you think this approach might work? I am expecting a call anyday myself, unless I am already DA"D/DF'd and unaware of it.

I've been pondering on what I will say when asked the pivotal question. Is there anyone who has been successful at avoiding DF'ing without responding 'yes' to the question? So far, I plan to respond that I consider myself an inactive Jehovah's Witness.

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My Story

by pr_capone in

in 1990 my mother married an american guy from that she had met while working for an aircraft company.

my brother was not allowed to visit me and they even turned him against me.

the relationship that my mother and i have will never be like what we had.

yrs2long

Thanks for sharing and welcome to the board. I'm sorry you had such bad experiences and at so young an age. Everyone's story is important. Isn't it funny how they ignore you when you're doing well and then harass you constantly when they get even a small whiff of a rumour of some 'wrongdoing'.

We're glad to have you here and I hope you experience the healing that many of us have had since coming here and finding like-minded persons with similar experiences.

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JWS NOT FREE TO FALL IN LOVE

by heyfea in

you know how the society pushes every one to do more, and more, and more....and those who don't do more without a super valid reason (like you're in a coma), are considered not "spiritual", right?

ok, they also tell single brothers and sisters who are pioneers or bethelites that they should only consider marrying those with the same spiritual goals....in other words....choose some one who "loves" jehovah just as much, meaning one who preaches 120 hours a month or works in bethel,etc.....right?

....well i think it is so unfair.. it's already bad enough that we cannot look at another human being from the opposite sex because they are not witnesses (never mind that they are excellent human beings, ones that would ashame many jws)....we also have to keep from falling in love with a pioneer or bethelite (if you are not one, because he or she will not give you the time of day) or from falling in love with a mere publisher ( if you are a pioneer , because the elders will suggest to let it go, and they will try and try until you give it up)( i've witnessed a huge case...that ended in a bethelite and a pioneer dying, litterally) isn't that appaling?

yrs2long

Welcome to the board, heafea!

There is alot of truth to what you say. Although this was unfair to both sexes, it was extremely unfair to sisters. One thing that bothered me was to see ordinary blokes who were nothing to look at marry beautiful sisters from congregations far away because they had the advantage due to the brother/sister ratio that exists in the organization.

My 21 year old beautiful pioneer friend settled for a 35 year-old pioneer elder and we all thought she'd made a good catch. In truth, he was the one who'd been lucky. I'll bet she'll never see it that way either.

I've seen the craziest pairings due to the written and unwritten policies that exist in the witness arena. When I was but 20, my dad tried to marry me off to an older brother in our hall. The guy had to be at least 40 years old and he lacked social skills. Still, he had alot of money and because he frequently lent to the friends he was considered a good 'catch'. I declined and sought my fortune elsewhere. In retrospect, I probably should've married the old guy rather than the hothead I eventually did marry. But I thought the young one was a spiritual man who spent all of his free time in field service. And he continued to do so--beating me early enough in the morning or late the night before so he could still have time to rise early and go out in service.

I think the ones who have it the worst though, are those who are divorced but not scripturally free to marry. MIght as well have leprosy because no one will look at ya and in my case at least, very few want to associate with you either. I was in this living hell/limbo for almost 5 years while I waited for evidence of infidelity. What a freaking waste of precious years in which I turned away nice 'worldly' men even though no jw man would consider me in my state.

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CONGREGATION SPLITS

by hamptonite21 in

jw
friends

how many times were you in a congregation split?

i was in 1 in about my 10 yrs active as a jdub.

yrs2long

I was in 2 congregations that were dissolved within a 3 year period. The first time, everyone was assigned to and absorbed by neighboring congregations and I'm not quite sure the reason. The second time was due to dissension among a corrupt elder body and every one was told to go wherever they wished.

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Was it LB? (help me find a letter)

by hillbilly in

jw
friends

hi-- a few months ago i read a real good da letter on this board but alas, i can not turn it up with the search feature.. the crux of the letter was a warning to the boe that is any "alienation of affection" came from the receipt of the letter legal action against the individual elders would be levied.

any one remember that one?.

i used lb's "name in vain" because i think it was his letter.

yrs2long

Here's another good one:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=18983&site=3

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Gallstone Experience, etc.? Scully?

by patio34 in

i was wondering if anyone would have any really great enlightenment from their own experience with gallstone attacks.

however, i had a wicked attack last night .

so, has anyone had this disorder and know any great solutions (short of surgery, which doesn't seem called for yet in my case) for avoiding these (ouch!

yrs2long

Pat,

There are some discussion forums/groups on gallbladders/gallstones that you might find helpful. There is one on yahoo.com that requires membership in order to read and/or share.

Although I had no indication for doing so, I underwent some natural therapies for eliminating gallstones. I lost about 7 pounds and there was stuff that came out that, to this day I have no idea what it may have been. I completed the process 3 times and each time seemed to eliminate larger although fewer 'stones' than the previous attempt. Again, I had no problems with my gallbladder nor with the passage of stones through the ducts so my experience will not be helpful to you.

I am providing the following link for information/amusement. There are quite a few pictures on the site including some of an actual gallbladder surgery. There are also links to discussion boards. I am not affiliated in any way with this site.

http://www.curezone.com/gallstones/default.asp

Years (who avoids surgery as much as possible while recognizing that at some point it may become inevitable)

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Gallstone Experience, etc.? Scully?

by patio34 in

i was wondering if anyone would have any really great enlightenment from their own experience with gallstone attacks.

however, i had a wicked attack last night .

so, has anyone had this disorder and know any great solutions (short of surgery, which doesn't seem called for yet in my case) for avoiding these (ouch!

yrs2long

oops, somehow I double posted.

Edited by - yrs2long on 29 December 2002 16:35:18

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Gallstone Experience, etc.? Scully?

by patio34 in

i was wondering if anyone would have any really great enlightenment from their own experience with gallstone attacks.

however, i had a wicked attack last night .

so, has anyone had this disorder and know any great solutions (short of surgery, which doesn't seem called for yet in my case) for avoiding these (ouch!

yrs2long

Patio34,

I think what most people who've had their gallbladders removed fail to disclose is that most of them continue to experience gastric discomfort even after the removal of the gallbladder. A coworker still cannot eat fatty foods without also experiencing discomfort and enzymes and Tums have become her new best friends. Gallstones form in the liver and the gallbladder appears to be merely a receptacle for those stones that come from the liver. After you gallbladder is removed, the stones continue to form and get expelled by the liver.

I think you should do some more research into alternative cures especially if you are able to stave off the pains by eating a less fatty diet. Perhaps some of the alternative cures can be more successful if done over a longer period. However, if you have reached the point where your problem is life-threatening, by all means have the surgery.

Good luck to you!