It reminds me of when God waited 400 years to deliver his people from the Egyptians because "the sins of the amorites had not been full" or something like that. God was doing multiple things when he delivered his people then. Judging the Egyptian gods, judging the nation's sins, and at the same time delivering his people. Then those people stopped giving a rip about God anyway as people do. He's doing big picture stuff, sin is in the world and it will be judged and his people will get delivered. These things unfortunately take time as we learn from the bible. People in the bible prayed for 40 years before God answered. Have you prayed that long for something? Maybe the answer comes after you die? These things take time and we don't understand everything. But God is faithful and will do as he says when he sees fit.
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God won't lift a finger to help you.
by nicolaou insea breeze: @nicolau,i stated my case rather succiently, which you failed to address.
if you have a better solution to the problem of evil than what jesus offers, then why don't you present that in a new topic?.
pathetic diversion.
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The Next Big Thing In WT World
by NotFormer inthings got a bit lively after the agm leaks in october.
there was a lot of discussion going on on this board for a few months.
now that all the leaks have been more or less confirmed as policy, and we've had lively discussions at length concerning the changes, things seem to have slowed down here.. a few suggestions have been raised as to what might be the next changes, such as women being allowed to wear slacks (in the usa, anyway), decoupling from 1914 as an anchoring date and others.. so, what changes do you think will be announced this year?.
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lriddle80
My mom (pimi), when I asked her about women wearing pants as the next thing, she claimed women could always wear pants if they wanted to, but that they just didn't want to! I said "well I wished I had known that growing up because I definitely would have!"
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IT'S OFFICIAL: Unbelief in WTBTS/JW's renders ANYONE as being anti-Christ
by BoogerMan init-1 p. 127 - "they may also claim to serve god but reject (don't serve) his representatives, his visible organization.
such ones willfully abandoning the christian congregation (the org) thereby become part of the “antichrist.”" .
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Ridiculous
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Only baptised JWs will make it?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA ini think it was a john cedars video or someone else’s where the point was brought up that only baptised jws will be saved?
then one talk about kids of baptised jws hope they will make it but even them don’t know.
most jws probably think that some good people who are not baptised may make it through, but this is not official teaching?.
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lriddle80
But it isn't only baptized jw that will be saved, even though we see that is *their* official message (and my dad would agree).
So, what was the point of wanting to know this? Just wondering! 😃
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Moral responsibility.
by nicolaou inno subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
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lriddle80
What's good about this conversation is that, as far as the ones who participated in this conversation, if any kid looks to be in danger, we will be on the case!
Also, I have read articles that say there is most likely another tsunami coming to that same area so, going forward, how will we be a part of the solution for those poor babies? Legislation? Charity funds, relocation? Adoption? Make it illegal to go to the beach...
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Moral responsibility.
by nicolaou inno subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
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lriddle80
The bystander saves the boy from the platform. The boy grows up and realizes the person who saved him made choices that he wouldn't have made and he spends his life bad mouthing the person who saved him.
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Moral responsibility.
by nicolaou inno subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
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lriddle80
I don't approve of slavery, kidnapping, rape or infanticide.
Can God use something that we call bad to accomplish his purposes? He used the assyrians to punish Israel and then he punished the assyrians.
Do atheists have morals? Of course! Even though they don't believe in God they can still do good.
These things feel similar. A good God can use evil; a person who doesn't believe can do good.
But how do I live my life knowing this? Even though I don't fully understand God's ways or the atheists unbelief, I will love both and use my life to serve others and have interesting conversations. But the change and growth comes from God so I try not to be attached to the results, as hard as that is!
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Moral responsibility.
by nicolaou inno subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
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lriddle80
I used to wonder, as a jw child, why the bible said "seek me and you may find." I would open the bible and say "here he is, what's with the cryptic message of seeking when I can open the bible and go right to him?"
I think things in the bible are purposefully ambiguous.
We are still discussing these things after thousands of years. That says something.
I had a thought about slavery. If slavery had not been established then Jesus "setting the captives free" wouldn't be a big deal. You have to know slavery to know freedom. You have to know suffering to appreciate "all tears being wiped away"
He has torn us that he may heal us.
I can appreciate this coming from a God. If he wants us to come to him no matter what and understands our thoughts he knows we won't stop seeking we won't stop questioning we won't stop searching for the truth. Some will figure it out, some will fall away. I find that hard to accept, but am coming to that realization. I won't give up, though.
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Moral responsibility.
by nicolaou inno subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
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lriddle80
What about this scripture?
Matthew 224:6-8
And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are but the beginning of the birth pains.
So Jesus literally said earthquakes would happen. He didn't mention tsunamis as a result of the earthquake, but I think it's a good point. If only we could have been there to question Jesus's morality in that moment! (Sarcasm)
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Moral responsibility.
by nicolaou inno subtlety here, it's going to be obvious where i'm going with this.
please consider the following scenario.. you're seated on a railway platform bench waiting for your train.
a high speed intercity is about to hurtle through without stopping when you see a small child running to the platforms edge!
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lriddle80
In thinking about this conversation:
It's wonderful to be able to discuss these topics and say our real thoughts and feelings without fear. We couldn't do that as JW.
I think we all made some thought provoking arguments. It got me thinking!
These conversations help me as I am talking to others about God. I used it yesterday when chatting with my homeless friend and we had some laughs and it got him thinking about what he believes and ended up sharing some good stories.
Good stuff! ♥️