Thanks!! I think you are right about that! I will.
lriddle80
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lriddle80
I see what you mean about how it looks. My husband said something similar.
Honestly, it's a "I am not dead!!!!" Kind of feeling.
I am railing against their cruelty in my mind. I am angry.
Ok, I guess I might stop texting her and let her feel it for a while. I have to forgive all of them for this shunning. I will just work on that for a while! It is what it is.
Jesus said if I try to hold onto my life I will lose it.
Thanks for letting me see that side of things!!
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lriddle80
So, I am a believer in Jesus alone for salvation. So, I just tried to stress to her that if she is trusting in Christ alone for salvation, not an organization...then by all means be a Jehovah's witness. Her whole life is tied up in it. I am just worried she isn't really saved because the organization puts themselves in an elevated status. I want to believe she is saved because she believes in Jesus as the ransom. I just know the whole Jesus alone is in the Bible. And I personally believe in the trinity, which took me over 10 years to finally admit. Once I couldn't deny it any longer. But I don't really know if that is necessary for salvation. I hope it's like horseshoes in her case - close enough!
(I know a lot of you don't believe in anything and that's your path, but just speaking about what I believe in this situation.)
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lriddle80
I was faded for about 10 years. My mom shared the website constantly over the last few years. The whole come back to Jehovah rhetoric.
We had 2 other epic conversations in the past year. 1 about the trinity. Another just about what I believe. Then the last one.
The problem was my husband felt we should placate my family by going to the memorial every year. He felt it was right and this last one the new head elder talked to me and then my mom told on me and gave him my number.
I know I should have just told him I had to get off the phone, but I have been dreaming of the day I would go head to head with an elder and like I said I had just finished reading 1984, and my son was listening, so I was feeling like a warrior. I didn't stop to think of my family, I just wanted to be bold for Christ.
I don't regret it. I am dealing with the consequences, but I believe it makes sense in the story of my life.
This was inevitable, in my mind.
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lriddle80
The elders know I am celebrating Christmas and going to a church because my mom told them and I admitted it, too, because I am not ashamed. They told me I wouldn't be df'd as long as I repented and I brazenly said I had nothing to repent of since I am not doing anything wrong. The guy actually said that Jehovah will not bless me if I went to another church and I told him that was a lie because I am being blessed daily.
And at the time of the conversation, I had just finished reading 1984 and was in a crusade kind of emotion and my son was listening. I told them I would come to their judicial committee, but that I would be bringing my own committee. But after talking to my mom about it, I told her I would ignore their phone calls and letter. I watched a few hidden judicial things on YouTube and those brothers didn't care about truth, only following their rule book, so I am not going. Though it's not because I am scared.
My mom told me i could put in my letter, but I said she is still required to shun me and she said , "oh yeah, that's true" She was trying to find another way, but there isn't one.
I got to talk to her for almost 2 hours on the phone and we looked up scriptures and spoke at length of Jesus. I told her all my stories of working in ministries, answers to prayer, everything. At the end, I asked her "does it sound like I have a relationship with God"? And she said it did sound like it. She said no matter what happens, she loves me.
I will text her as long as i feel I want to. Part of me wants to give up, but part of me says don't give up yet.
Thanks for listening!!
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lriddle80
Thanks everyone!!
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lriddle80
Hello! I just wanted to get some feedback. I don't want to go into the whole story, it's too long and it's been told by a lot of people here.
Anyway, I think I am disfellowshipped or about to be. (which, I am glad about, except for my family who is still in - survivors guilt) I refused the certified letter. Not answering phone calls, etc. My family is shunning me, of course. But my plan is to text my mom regularly, just talking about my life, not about how she should leave that crazy cult, but just as a daughter texting her mom. I am fully aware she won't text back and she hasn't. Do you all think it's a good idea? Have you done anything similar? What were the results? I don't even know what the end game is. I just want to remind her I still exist, I guess. To be a thorn in her side maybe. If she blocks my number, will I be able to tell when texting her? Thanks for your help!!
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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?
by BourneIdentity inin the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.
we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.
why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?
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lriddle80
Cofty, I guess the first thing I would challenge is that any life is "innocent" because there is original sin, though if you don't believe in that, then it's pointless to argue.
Also, I am probably a bad example of a person because I tend to focus on my own life and those in my circle of influence. Outside of that, I don't know. The Bible says we overcome by the word of our testimony, so I focus on that.
Irresponsible, maybe, but God is present and comforting despite the hell my life can sometimes be. We went through a nightmare with my son and God revealed the whole depravity in small doses as to not completely overwhelm us. I was fasting during this time and prayed he would get caught for anything he tried to do and my son literally got caught in all the sneaky things he was trying to do. God showed me he was there every time I felt unseen, lonely, forsaken. He showed how good he was even though what my son was involved in wasn't. And now, since we've come through it, our family is the strongest it ever was. I believe we had a type of house of cards aspect to our family. My husband had checked out in his own way, I hadn't realized I was checked out and my son was involved in terrible things and God revealed it. Now my husband is completely different, I am different and my son is going to have a future, which he was close to not being alive. God is good.
My present trial is with my Jehovah's witness family and it's been cool to see how God is answering prayers that I have been praying for over 10 years. I am in the middle of it, so I can't share yet, but he is working!
I can't speak for other people. And I can't help people who don't want to see the beauty. I see it. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life...I am not. Seek God and he promises to let you find him.
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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?
by BourneIdentity inin the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.
we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.
why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?
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lriddle80
I believe in God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit from reading the Bible.
But also, in my own life, as I pray and watch my life, I see God comforting me, supporting me when I have no strength, being so faithful to meet my needs and to let me know that he is here and is with me in ways that blow my mind.
This life on Earth can be a waking nightmare, but God never fails to let me know he is with me and that he loves me and will never leave me or forsake me.
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My Mom's Challenge to Me
by lriddle80 inso my jw mom messages me on facebook last night and says she wants me, for a month, to read the bible, but first pray using the name jehovah and in jesus name and then read it with an open mind.
she is so ridiculous!
first of all, i do pray but i usually just say father and i always pray in jesus name and i find it ironic that she is saying i should have an open mind when hers is closed.
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lriddle80
I just miss her. I wish we could have a regular mom and daughter relationship. I chose to leave, and I am happy about it. Not everyone gets what they want, so I am just being spoiled, I guess. I need to just be satisfied with what I have and the love that's in my life and leave it all be. I hate giving up, but maybe I should, for my own peace. It's a bummer.