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  New experience for me..advice, anyone?

  by zanex in

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  i have been out of touch with pretty much all of the old jw's that i used to hang around with while in new mexico.

  i have been informed that one of those jw's that oddly enough happens to be related to my roommate that i am currently living with is coming to town and i have also been told that he is trying to leave the org and doesnt want to be any part of it anymore but he still has a lot of family in the religion...another twist anyone?

  oh yeah he also is "coming out" he is gay.

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  wow, lots of good advice and questions from everyone! I knew there was a good reason I am on this site..ok lets go about this in order..

  freedomrules:I am df'd now for 8 or so years, my pop is an elder, mom is extremely devout jw. I have a semi-professional, based on logistic relationship with my dad and not so much of anything with my mom. It has taken me years to get this much from them. As to whether anyone knows why I am not sure myself actually. I only vaguely recall what those members of that judicial commitee said that night to me. Their faces are clear but not the words. I honestly dont know what criteria one has to meet in order to be labelled an apostate so only can go by what I know of my father and their understanding of the word. You are very right in what ya said..irony within the jw system does not go to waste it seems. Yah he does have a lot going on right now. Yah letting him do the bulk of the talking sounds good to me. Good feedback! Thanxz!

  Mav: yah if he is still close to the jdub infrastructure he will be either full of mush or hard as concrete...either way I have already done my "time in jw departure crisis" so know what to expect I imagine. Yah gonna send him this way too. I already have all of the books that have been used for jw departure..coc, awakenings of a jw..etc...so I am fully armed with the "sword of truth" LOL damn that was funny...

  Granny: the feeling behind your post reflects a past that is probably very long and full of emotional experience. I thank you for that...he IS reaching out and I could possibly be the only one in a position to just listen to what he has to say. He isnt a bad guy..I never had any problems with him personally I think that I will be able to just sit and listen unobjectively and nonjudgementally. Thankxz

  JamesThomas: Very good question..I have been molded to believe that when a time of persecution loomed close by that I would stand fast in the face of overwhelming odds in belief of a dubious at best religious system. That sentance is probably grammatically wrong but hope the point came across. To be honest I dont know what is going to happen..I guess I will just have to wait and see eh? It is good though for me to get feedback from those on here that may have been in similar situations. "Follow your heart" LOL funny words eh? All those years hearing that I should not listen to my heart and that it was treacherous and deceitful. LOL. Damn I'm glad I can still laugh about it!

  Caligirl: True, you have a VERY good point there. I thought about that one for a bit...his non jw family know about his desire to leave to org. I couldnt come up with an answer to my own question of "why would he tell his non jw family all of this if he was NOT genuine?" I dunno...I think at this point the course of prudence with some room for empathic listening would be the best thing for me. I'll do it the way I have done most everything ELSE in my life...WING IT! lol...Thankxz!
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  Did You Feel Bad About How YOU Treated Disfellowshipped Ones?

  by minimus in

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  being an elder, i could talk to df's ones to see how they're doing.

  the wt.

  tells the rank and file that those disfellowsipped are as "dead" in jehovah's eyes.

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  yes...I do regret those disfellowshipped that I treated with cold disregard...karma is a bitch...

  -Z-
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  New experience for me..advice, anyone?

  by zanex in

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  i have been out of touch with pretty much all of the old jw's that i used to hang around with while in new mexico.

  i have been informed that one of those jw's that oddly enough happens to be related to my roommate that i am currently living with is coming to town and i have also been told that he is trying to leave the org and doesnt want to be any part of it anymore but he still has a lot of family in the religion...another twist anyone?

  oh yeah he also is "coming out" he is gay.

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  zanex

  I have been out of touch with pretty much all of the old jw's that I used to hang around with while in new mexico. I have been informed that one of those jw's that oddly enough happens to be related to my roommate that I am currently living with is coming to town and I have also been told that he is trying to leave the org and doesnt want to be any part of it anymore but he still has a lot of family in the religion...another twist anyone? Oh yeah he also is "coming out" he is gay. I have no problem with homosexual people at all I have plenty of gay friends. I actually kinda feel for the guy cuz he is so in for a whale of a time leaving. He has told friends of mine here in town that I know that he wants my help and my advice/support blah blah blah...I am oddly enough suffering a problem with meeting him...I havent seen this guy in 10 some odd years and even back then we werent THAT close. I was on the outs long before he ever was. He was one of the ones that was ignoring me back then...not that he was important enough to pay any attention to but he was just another one of the rank and file. He used to hang with my sister and her friends back in the day. I on one side want to be able to help just because I remember the pains of my own leaving...I dont think that anyone should have to go through that...if anyone is going to be "shunned" then I want to be there to support them.

  Then there is the other side of me that is suspicious of ALL things jehovahs witness. He is still technically baptized and has not made any type of open gesture of leaving the church. He still goes to meetings and blah blah blah...I get nervous that should I meet with him and open to him and share what I have found with him he will leave that meeting and randomly suffer a morality crisis and feel the need to purge himself of all that he has heard from one who is "fallen" to an elder or something at which point I am promptly labelled an apostate and word is sent to my parents who will undoubtedly cut what meager ties they have with me now as it is. I pose this situation to anyone here interested...I have been told that this guy is coming into town this thursday...any advice? Suggestions? Good ways to dispose of body without being caught? Peace... Freedom...

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  What's The Worst Job You've Ever Had?

  by SYN in

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  so what's the worst job you've ever had?.

  book-servant at the kingdom hall would be pretty bad, but ministerial lawn servant is probably worse.. outside the society, probably my worst job was waitering.

  i have a very short short-term memory, although this is more than made up for by my ltm, which means i made a really sh*te waiter, let me tell you.

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  hands down the worst job I have ever had was scrubbing pots, pans and tubs at a taco bell...good grief..it seems so long ago...I worked there like 2 weeks and finally threw the hat that the manager had given to me (for some reason he thought that I was under the illusion that I was happy working at taco bell and was proud of my hat) into a dirty vat of beans and mystery meat...never went back...

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  How Many Here Are DF'd, Disassociated Or Not Worried That They Might?

  by minimus in

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  i'm curious as to whether the majority of the board's disfellowshipped.

  and i'm curious as to whether or not push came to shove, that you would not be overly distressed if you did wind up getting df'd........as time goes on, i am caring less.

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  df'd since early nineties....insanity set in shortly after that...ahh sweet sweet insanity how I do love it still...
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  If you could have been in any past movie...........it would be....??

  by ScoobySnax in

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  well what movie would you have like to have been in?

  any film, at any time.

  i would have to say any of the starwars films...i've always wanted to whip out my light saber, and make that "arcking" sound they make.

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  Natural Born Killers, Clockwork Orange, Event Horizon, and thats it I think...kind of morbid list though...
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  can this be real?

  by SPAZnik in

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  i'm so excited i could burst!

  my sibling and i have been reunited, not only irl .

  please give breal a much deserved hearty welcome y'all!

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  any sibling of spaz's is a welcome addition to this board! Spaz has been a healthy source of encouragement in times when i have needed it. Welcome!
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  a/s/l

  by smias03 in

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  just wondering what the age/sex/location of the majority of posters is...

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  Intro: as a person with deaf parents and a fully functioning asl interpreter myself this thread cracks me up! LMAO

  28/m/central cali...
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  I need help

  by DIAMOND in

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  help me please... i just got diane wilson's book awakening of a jehovah's witness and i can't put the damn thing down.

  i'm reading while i eat while i'm in bed while i'm at work in the bathroom!!

  its crazy!!!!.

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  I have the same problem..I am in the process of reading it too. It takes on a big reality for me cuz I was an interpreter too. Very good book. I am reading coc and that one right now at the same time. Squeeze in some harry potter too for some sanity building excercises..
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  THIS IS FOR ALL,,,,,,,

  by kls in

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  i just wanted to say thanks to all on this board,if i have a bad day i come and read some threads and just sit and laugh,some of you are so funny,if i need answers to any questions, you answer,if there is a debate going on i can't wait to read the next thread to see how it ends.you give me a reason to keep going everyday.simon ,i would also like to thank you ,if not for you this life saving sight and letting these people be themselves ,many of us would not be here to help others or ourselves.i hope all of you really realise how important you are and the help you have brought to so many.

  thankyou all kathy

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  yes, I think that I can also only echo what has already been said here..Simon, this board has been a place for me to come to when I need either a hard shot of reality or an encouraging word of support..either way it has been a help to me in ways that I am sure that I will never even know. Poetry that I would have never had written has come out since I have had this palce to bring it out on...a living breathing place to enjoy a type of catharsis. My hats off to ya...my prescription bottle also is open to ya It's gotta be a maddening task to deal with all of us eccentric personalities here..