Posts by zanex

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New World Translation in American Sign Language

by cabasilas in

i was told some of the new world translation has been produced in asl (american sign language).

i have a few items on dvd already but would like to see if they have any of the nwt in asl.

not that i recommend the translation but would be curious to see it.

zanex

It has been...i do have access to it..it is something that the witnesses have made a strong point in their organization...a fixed text...this is the problem that ALL religions have had difficulty with when it comes to those that require the use of ASL...they all end up using interpreters and the only difficulty with this is that no two interpreters will EVER interpret the same thign the same way...now that the society has FIXED text it has something that no other religions has-communication for the deaf the same way EVERY way...makes me shudder every time i think about it...

All those deaf people that for years have been frustrated with the lack of communication in the religious arena that now all of a sudden have TOTAL access to a religious information source and the translation is the same no matter where you go in the us...(shudders) good for them (the society) bad for the deaf...(shakes head)

-Z- of the parents are deaf class....

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JW's following me at Work? NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

by Jolinar in

yesterday when i was working someone was watching some particularly un-jw approved movies on the big screen tv's i sell.

i asked them if i could help them as i usually do with customers and he hooked me into a conversation.

about 5 minutes later i heard the work 'jehovah' and freaked inside!

zanex

I know the feeling...im in a sort of similar situation but only difference is that I am stuck working with the witnesses that were stalking me...sadly they also know my parents/family etc that happens to be faithful witnesses...I took it up with management and they helped considerably taking care of it but ultimately i had to take the situation into my own hands and tell the witnesses involved to back off of me...after they asked me point blank if I was disfellowshipped in the freaking break room...lol. I told them yes...i probably didnt really know all of what I was doing...(more balls than brains sometimes) anyhow...they do leave me alone now tho....im sure they have spread the word about me in my office..good thing my boss and management staff are behind me 100%! doing good work pays off i guess...anyhow i guess my advice would be to tell em to take the long walk into a busy interstate...

-Z-

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What do ex-JW's still believe

by spiceant in

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the wts teaches many things:end times (at hand)armageddon (to come within <25 years)resurrection (to paradise)paradise (beyond armageddon)satan deceives all earthjesus died on a stick, not crossdemonsanimals eat grass in paradise (including carnivores).

which of these points do the ex-jws among you still believe?

zanex

ok the animals eating grass including carnivores bit? lol...the day i see a lion have a nice big hearty SALAD I will take another serious look at the bible..until then..? I dont have belief in any of those things...dont think i have the ABILITY to believe in those things as it was stolen from me by the society....

-Z-

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Time is their enemy

by LDH in

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tick, tick, tick.. the governing body is dying one by one, faster now.. young people who thought they would never see themselves getting old now take meds for cholesterol, alzheimers, diabetes, blood pressure.. the end isn't here.. tick, tick, tick.. kids who walked away from the wt after being warned that they would die like a dog in the streets instead are very successful young people with real jobs, families, and assets.. empty threats stop having an effect.

apathy sets in.

automatons attend the meetings.

zanex

so true so true...those who were once branded as disfellowshipped and convinced that they were worthless find that there IS worth and there IS life outside of the "troof". I find the strength in myself in something i once feared-active witnesses. Thanx lis...i think this post helpd me make a decision and a series of decision i had been chewing on for a while..smile! Thanx!

-Z-

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Should I admit to JWs that I am disfellowshipped?

by jwfacts in

i know about 2000 jws in sydney, and have 50 that are tax clients, so barely a week goes by without bumping into someone i know.

it seems that few of them realise that i am disfellowshipped because they talk freely to me.

last week i accidently sat next to an elder on the train and we engaged in small talk for over 30 minutes.. should i admit to these people that i am not a jw?.

zanex

hmmm I actually found myself in this situation...i made a post about it some time ago about how I am worknig in an arena that is rampant with jws that happen to be intimately familiar with my parents who are still actively within the clutches of the ahem..."troof"...anyhow i was approached while i was on the job and I was asked if i was df'd. I, for some odd reason, felt a surge of what I would like to call courage but is more probably like fool hardiness and decided to answer it! I said i was dfd but that i did not subscribe to such terminology and if they wanted to speak with me again that they would have to address me by my name.

Now we skip into the next day when i fully realize what I have done and now ALL of the jws working there will now shun me...all because of a shtupid question and my numbnuts answer...I went to my management and they were aghast at the tale I told. Before I ever took the job i made management aware of my issues with the local jw populace and i was promised that I would never be made to feel uneasy. They were more worried about me suing them than any religious issues the shtupid jws had. Anyhow..long story short...I had a meeting set with the jw who ousted me and my manager...I told that jw in no uncertain terms that I was not to be f*&$@d with and that any comments to that effect would be returned with a vengeance. I love the feeling of having the word "professional" supporting me....the jw was cowed and to this day I have had a "zero tolerance" relationship with that and all the other jws here...and apparently I have had quite an impact...as the first ever df'd xjw that is working at this job. There are others within this job that have been made to feel small and "shunned" up until i got employed...I am the first one to ever stand up and give them all a very well deserved bird. And all under the umbrella of work! Go fig...

Ultimately the choice to identify oneself comes with consequences but those same consequences are faced whether or not I do it to myself or they find out without my information...I made the choice to take them on...head on...no, it wasnt easy but now it is MY power field...and the game they play is now out in the open and I am on top...but whatever...Im just glad my boss is gay...lol. Makes it much easier for me to sit in front of those jws and tell them what for...lol. anyhow...thats my 2 cents!

-Z-

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What do you do for living?

by averyniceguy in

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i am america sign language teacher and a caretaker of a house near the beach.

what do you do for living?

zanex

ASL interpreter here....and loving dad...(american sign language)

student of life...

-Z-

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My Story

by L_A_Big_Dawg in

i am not sure if i am posting this in the correct forum.

if not i am sure i will be told.. while, i have hit this site from time-to-time in the past, i have never really frequented it.

until recently.

zanex

hola la dawg!

Good to see ya again. (waves) Hope all is well with you!

-Z-

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REPOST: For those without Mothers

by Lady Lee in

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mothers day can bring up many issues for some of us.

for some their mothers have passed away and the opportunity to say i love you in person is forever lost.

for others our mothers are lost to the borg.

zanex

Dear mom...

I wish you cared enough about me to ignore the blind followings of some old men that tell you and dad what to do...I wish you could see all the love that I want to share but dont trust you enough to give freely...I wish I knew what to feel on these mothers days....I wish I had the relationship with you that you seem to share with everyone around you except your own flesh and blood...I wish you could see me for the person I have become and not the person I had to become to survive...I wish I could show you the type of parent I have become and see that you are proud of me without thinking about what i am NOT....I wish you did not see me as disfellowshipped and saw me as the name that you gave to me when i came into this world...I wish nothing bad upon you mom...even when you are still around physically you dont contact me when i send you emails, you call the local witnesses on the drop of a dime and directly tell THEM that you are not in town to see me as if it was a badge of shame...sigh. Im done..this is depressing. I do miss you mom...happy mothers day I guess...

-Z-

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So I just moved into my new place...

by zanex in

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me and the future mrs zanex finally got our own place together and it has been great...been here now two weeks and only in town for 3 days out of the week..the new job i am in puts me and the sig other in a hotel so between the hotel for 3 days a week for the wast 4 months and the new place the last two weeks everything has been going great!

this last week we get back to our place and lo and behold there is a freakin tract of some sort inviting me to an assembly in bakersfield!

lol...knew my happiness couldnt last without some sort of "home invasion" by the local witnesses...lol.

zanex

me and the future mrs zanex finally got our own place together and it has been great...been here now two weeks and only in town for 3 days out of the week..the new job i am in puts me and the sig other in a hotel so between the hotel for 3 days a week for the wast 4 months and the new place the last two weeks everything has been going great! This last week we get back to our place and lo and behold there is a freakin tract of some sort inviting me to an assembly in bakersfield! Lol...knew my happiness couldnt last without some sort of "home invasion" by the local witnesses...lol. Just with a quick look on the front told me everything I needed to know...the talks listed were much the same as they had been all those years ago when I was a wee clueless rank and file peon. I almost wet myself with laughter when i saw it. Now I KNOW that they come here..lol. Now all I have to do is wait....at some point i get to go thru the same old drill at the door with the dubs that will inevitably come back at some point...probably saw me moving in no doubt hiding behind a corner..LOL. Ok enough with the comedy...in all seriousness it seems as though every place I move to I get mobbed until i tell them bout my "disfellowshipping" and they send the local elder around to tell me that he can see me once a year and only for 45 minutes a time...sigh. It must be hard to be so dang predictable....anyhow....

-Z-

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MY BIRTHDAY TODAY...

by helppls in

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...happy birthday to me....happy birthday to me..... hi everyone!

we'll most likely do a nice dinner tonight as a family (husband, daughter and i), and i will have to buy my own cake.

but we can never call it a birthday anything...the very mention of the term freaks him out!

zanex

Happy Birthday!!!